tried to track boar today

[Tremplin du Chante]

A friend bow shot a boar a little far back and called me to see if i could track it with my 8th month bmh. The trail was around 16hrs old. We set off well and about 400m into it found the broken tail section of the arrow still seeing no blood. Another 400m on we lost the scent and after circling with the dog a couple of times i couldn't get him motivated again (we had been stalking all morning) or he simply couldn't find any scent. Rather than spoil any more of the trail we left it and he has a more experienced dog coming in tomorrow.

My question is, was i correct to stop where we did or were there any other options open to me? Could i have rested the dog and continued? How many times do people tend to take the dog back to where they had positive scent and retry?

 

[centralbeltstalker]

My question is, was i correct to stop where we did or were there any other options open to me?

the correct question is should i have told my mate to buy a rifle and do it right first time, now a boar with an arrow is out all night cos you both cant be arsed to find it.
ps yes i dont agree with bow shooting, yes you should have rested the dog and even gone and got the good one tonite.

only my opinion

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[deerman49]

im a little baffled on this is this boar in the uk as slightly confused here simply due to the fact i was unaware boar in the uk could be hunted with bow.
How ever even if overseas sorry to say im not a beleiver of bow hunting yes more than powerfull enoguh to do the job in the right conditions i do remember years ago having to dispatch a roe doe heavly pregnant due to the fact she had a cross bow bolt in her pretty sure this was a opertunnity shot from the roadside buy sum cowboys
scotty

 

[centralbeltstalker]

im a little baffled on this is this boar in the uk as slightly confused here simply due to the fact i was unaware boar in the uk could be hunted with bow.
How ever even if overseas sorry to say im not a beleiver of bow hunting yes more than powerfull enoguh to do the job in the right conditions i do remember years ago having to dispatch a roe doe heavly pregnant due to the fact she had a cross bow bolt in her pretty sure this was a opertunnity shot from the roadside buy sum cowboys
scotty

do you live near original poster Deerman, probably one of his mates other mistakes

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[centralbeltstalker]

another one for the bin admin i think
op from france, do we need to learn about how they cant be bothered to find an injured animal

 

[deerman49]

central no i was down in devon at the time many moons ago i will admit was worried then about your statement thought you ment i was for the bin
scotty

 

[centralbeltstalker]

central no i was down in devon at the time many moons ago i will admit was worried then about your statement thought you ment i was for the bin
scotty

not at all mate, hence my revision.
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[deerman49]

Cheers may i say some nice pics you have aswell
scotty

 

[centralbeltstalker]

Cheers may i say some nice pics you have aswell
scotty

thanks scotty,

(nice of you to say that mate) some hard work went in there mate to get them, but be careful though your talking to a covert animal rights activist here

thanks frank.

 

[Tremplin du Chante]

The boar was shot in France where Bow hunting is legal whether you believe it is ethical or not.

The 'good dog' and tracker were not available until the next day.

My question was more about would i have done more harm than good if we had carried on trampling over the trail with what looked like little chance of getting the dog going again.

I personally hunt with rifle and wouldn't choose to hunt with a bow, but it is legal here and people do choose to do it.

The reason for stopping had nothing to with us not being 'arsed' it was about not spoiling the scent for the other dog and i find that comment offensive as i always make every effort to ensure my kills are humane and anything that is injured is followed up as quickly as possible, hence the reason i am training up a blood tracking specific dog and am asking for advice.

 

[Tamus]

The boar was shot in France where Bow hunting is legal whether you believe it is ethical or not.

The 'good dog' and tracker were not available until the next day.

My question was more about would i have done more harm than good if we had carried on trampling over the trail with what looked like little chance of getting the dog going again.

I personally hunt with rifle and wouldn't choose to hunt with a bow, but it is legal here and people do choose to do it.

The reason for stopping had nothing to with us not being 'arsed' it was about not spoiling the scent for the other dog and i find that comment offensive as i always make every effort to ensure my kills are humane and anything that is injured is followed up as quickly as possible, hence the reason i am training up a blood tracking specific dog and am asking for advice.

Well done AM. I watched this thread developed and was tempted to postulate the reasons for your actions. You came back and confirmed them without my conjecture. Sorry you didn't get much helpful advice after asking for it so honestly. Maybe there are lessons for all here, your friend included.

 

[centralbeltstalker]

The boar was shot in France where Bow hunting is legal whether you believe it is ethical or not.

The 'good dog' and tracker were not available until the next day.

My question was more about would i have done more harm than good if we had carried on trampling over the trail with what looked like little chance of getting the dog going again.

I personally hunt with rifle and wouldn't choose to hunt with a bow, but it is legal here and people do choose to do it.

The reason for stopping had nothing to with us not being 'arsed' it was about not spoiling the scent for the other dog and i find that comment offensive as i always make every effort to ensure my kills are humane and anything that is injured is followed up as quickly as possible, hence the reason i am training up a blood tracking specific dog and am asking for advice.

Am,

appreciate you been so defensive with regards to my comments.
you would serve your position better to give all facts next time.
yes it is and was a good idea to remove the dog not to spoil the scent but i assume you know that.
my remarks where strong and i apologise if they offended but thats my stance on this type of hunting.
hit and hope dont work.

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[centralbeltstalker]

Well done AM. I watched this thread developed and was tempted to postulate the reasons for your actions. You came back and confirmed them without my conjecture. Sorry you didn't get much helpful advice after asking for it so honestly. Maybe there are lessons for all here, your friend included.

not like you tamus to be so reserved,

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[Tamus]

not like you tamus to be so reserved,

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Man of many facets Frank.

 

[deerwarden]

I would not put a 8 month old pup on a wounded boar, had the dog found it in cover still alive could have been trouble for a young inexperienced dog. Should have left it for the older dog to find it, you wert sure hence the post. Also dont agree with bowhunting live targets. deerwarden

 

[stone]

My question is, was i correct to stop where we did or were there any other options open to me? Could i have rested the dog and continued? How many times do people tend to take the dog back to where they had positive scent and retry?

AM
You seem to of took the options you felt were available at the time,
my own thoughts is more on the side of using an in-experienced dog on a good runner
possibly not ideal , especially with out signs of blood and potentially a gut shot beast
with no blood present it is very hard to determine in your own mind if you are on the right track and possibly if the Boar has been struck with a fatal shot
If not, it could still be going strong for years to come or still very much alive on finding it....
On loosing the trail I might of been inclined to mark the spot and sat the dog there
while I went back and retraced my steps looking for definate signs before deciding wether or not to carry on or call in another more experienced tracking dog
In the mean time you are giving the dog's nose a rest and then giving the dog another chance of finding the scent should you of decided to carry on
but a good learning experience for you both and atleast you know your dog has got the ability to track with out visible blood spoor,
I know gut shots produce a different scent and some dogs relish this fact as they know on finding it , it may well still be alive and get a chance to be sent in for a play
bit more age and work will surely of produced a better result and you will be more in tune on how that particular dog reacts to certain types of trails

 

[sikamalc]

For a start, it might have helped if the original poster had mentioned that the Boar was taken in France with a bow. Many on here may have been left with the impression that it had been illegally taken with a bow in the UK .

Taking out an inexperienced BMH on a wounded Boar is not sensible, for many reasons. The main one being that an inexperienced dog and a wounded Boar will not mix and end in you possibly loosing your dog. If the dog had never been put to a blood trail on Wild Boar it is unlikely to take it on board to follow it, let alone at 8 months old.

An experienced good dog should have been on hand and then you may have found the animal. Much also depends on where the Boar was hit, gut shot very little blood, and the dog will be working more on air scent in places. Either way I would not use a young dog in these circumstances.

ATB

Sikamalc

 

[Tamus]

am; je ne compends pas. vous êtes victime de harcèlement. vous avez fait tout ce que vous et j'ai honte de mes compatriotes. S'il vous plaît pardonnez-moi terrible français ~Thomas

 

[centralbeltstalker]

am; je ne compends pas. vous êtes victime de harcèlement. vous avez fait tout ce que vous et j'ai honte de mes compatriotes. S'il vous plaît pardonnez-moi terrible français ~Thomas

tamus,

i tried that on an introductions thread i.e speaking natural tongue be it that its not yours.
i dint get a reply and hope you have better luck

i can do bonjour comment allez vous, je mapelle francais. Pardon my spelling.
hello how are you my name is frank

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[308rws]

Following up any wounded boar is a dangerous enterprise at the best of times. Wounded boar have a reputation for anticipating the follow-up, and they can often break track circle back and lie in ambush. This could result in not only your dog getting ruined, but you also might get gored. I for one would NOT follow up a wounded boar with a pup and a bow. Experienced dog/s and a combination rifle required.
308RWS