Trophy import ban

[wildfowler.250]

Folks, I realise this idea has been dragging on for ages now. And years since I think it was first suggested,(2019 maybe)?

Do we have any definitive dates for when it would come into effect?

I assume now that’s it is in Lords, it can’t run out of time and start back to square 1? Back to commons and so on? My politics knowledge is rubbish.


All I can see is it’s currently at a committee stage but can’t see any further dates for discussions and so on. I’d considered a Canada trip but anything with CITES seems to be a big gamble at this stage. If anyone can shed some light, that would be great!


Cheers!

 

[sikamalc]

If it comes into force it will not be just CITIES species. Its an unworkable an ridiculous scheme that will create the loss of more wildlife.

 

[wildfowler.250]

If it comes into force it will not be just CITIES species. Its an unworkable an ridiculous scheme that will create the loss of more wildlife.

I’d ‘heard’ it was CITES appendix II but whether that’s true or not who knows.

Seems to be very little updates on it and pretty severe consequences if it goes through

 

[wildfowler.250]

I take it everyone is either as confused as I am on this? Or just focusing on uk stalking going forward.

 

[Whitefront]

Spoke to somebody from BASC at the game fair. Apparently it's gone to the House of Lords, where some helpful members have put forward amendments that would make it possible for trophies of most normal quarry to be imported from Africa provided that they have a certificate stating that they come from a sustainable source (I'm simplifying here). This is now being argued over behind closed doors (committee stage?) and it's not yet clear whether this would be accepted. But it is a ray of hope. The antis would be furious. If there is no agreement, the bill might get pushed through, or run out of parliamentary time and fall. But if that happens, then it is seen as highly likely that an incoming Labour government would then whack in the original bill, without any helpful modifications at all, as part of a manifesto pledge.

 

[wildfowler.250]

Spoke to somebody from BASC at the game fair. Apparently it's gone to the House of Lords, where some helpful members have put forward amendments that would make it possible for trophies of most normal quarry to be imported from Africa provided that they have a certificate stating that they come from a sustainable source (I'm simplifying here). This is now being argued over behind closed doors (committee stage?) and it's not yet clear whether this would be accepted. But it is a ray of hope. The antis would be furious. If there is no agreement, the bill might get pushed through, or run out of parliamentary time and fall. But if that happens, then it is seen as highly likely that an incoming Labour government would then whack in the original bill, without any helpful modifications at all, as part of a manifesto pledge.

That’s interesting! I didn’t know the bill could run out of time. Im assuming it could go back to square one then?


Sounds like there’s hope there. But might be a bit of a sweat getting the animals through customs on a “sustainable source” argument . Anything that’s up for debate only needs a jobsworth

 

[artschool]

I am hoping to go to SA this year so hopefully the delay will continue.

 

[wildfowler.250]

I am hoping to go to SA this year so hopefully the delay will continue.

You happy enough everything will get back okay? I’m tempted just to book but it’s a big risk. Looking at 2025 but assume it’ll be a pretty big deposit up front

 

[markj1]

The official government website says that this will be a ban on imports of hunting trophies of "endangered animals" - what animals are considered "endangered" that will be included in the ban?

 

[wildfowler.250]

The official government website says that this will be a ban on imports of hunting trophies of "endangered animals" - what animals are considered "endangered" that will be included in the ban?

I think just about anything ‘exotic’. Even if commonly hunted elsewhere

 

[Apthorpe]

Keep quiet enough and it might go away. Goldsmith and Mrs Johnson both have. Starmer will be too preoccupied keeping anti-Semites, thugs and racists out of his cabinet to worry too much about policies they favour.