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UK Government Launches UK Deer Management Strategy Consultation
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That might work on the Hill, but I doubt the gentlefolk in towns and villages will appreciate it quite as much!
They generally go into meltdown if Fido comes back with part of the gralloch, so I wonder how long it would be before one of them carts the carcass off to the vet to see if it can be revived
StephenToast
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Venison shouldn't limit culling deer any more than it limits foxes.
I would say people put up with finding a whole carcass more than finding a pile of guts with a head and feet on top. One of my permissions has tons of public on it and when someone finds a dead deer the wood manager gets a call then I get a text. I then go and verify it and enter in on the cull record job doneThat might work on the Hill, but I doubt the gentlefolk in towns and villages will appreciate it quite as much!
They generally go into meltdown if Fido comes back with part of the gralloch, so I wonder how long it would be before one of them carts the carcass off to the vet to see if it can be revived
How many times do you find a herd of foxes and shoot 10 plus in a row at 1am in the morning? I'm not against it I just think we need to be careful what rules we change.
StephenToast
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Vixen us four or five cubs not uncommon.
How many people hold back shooting foxes because they can't sell the carcass?
Back to extraction and disposal, with the £ playing it’s part, be interesting what is decided on that one, at one point the dogs act? Had something to say on dead domestic stock left lying and it was used or threatened against some at one point, devil in detail again but it’s there somewhere or was
. Not saying it applies to wild deer, but could have same reasoning.
As WG points out, leaving deer carcasses to decompose throughout the Lowlands is a seriously bad idea and should be avoided at all cost. If Government require significantry increased numbers shot that’s fine but they should be willing to put their hand in the tax payers pocket to pay for at least free access to a rendering plant if there’s no market for said beasts.
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They don't have enough qualified people on staff. Yes the NNR stalkers more than capable, but I know at least one would refuse to take part on moral grounds.
Licensing team may shoot a bit as well, but nothing compared to numbers which some FLS contractors are pulling in.
Government agencies love control, QUANGO's even moreso. With shared offices in Inverness, I suspect FLS would somehow be roped in.
There's also a lot of ground tied up by people who don't stalk very often, due to other commitments. That holds back the numbers shot.
For privately owned land, I don't think a mandated minimum cull target could be applied, and I very much doubt that is the way things will go. Most likely there'll be incentives to landowners to ensure that deer management is carried out (perhaps through enhancements to aggro-environment scheme payments), and incentives to "recreational" stalkers in the form of assistance with routes to market for venison, and the establishment of regional groups with subsidised access to training and facilities.
Leec6.5
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That’s all very well with a mandated minimum Cull is perfectly fine provided the people on the other side of the fence pull their bloody weight!
for example my own predicament is I’m shooting red deer by the heap as and when they cross my boundary once a fortnight any more than once a fortnight they get pressured they go away they don’t come back, And then you can’t get them.
Meanwhile you have those on the other side of the fence shooting one or two for the freezer one wood of 30 odd acres is shot at all so where do you think the deer are?
They know they’re safe in there and they do not move really until its browsed out, they then venture out to come and look for food on the crops until then you’re getting bored in high seats!
It’s been the same broken record with me like this for the last 15 years if not longer, The neighbouring land is not available for stalking lease or permission or any kind of deer management because they already have a friend who does it!
story of the deerstalking world of pain too many not willing to get their Tits in the sink!
If I had that block next to me I could triple my cull easily!
And before any Brightsparks suggest how about creating a day management group or working with the neighbour, been there tried that got my T-shirt grubby and it’s a no go!
The way I see this going in the future paid contractors taking over the whole lot!
Best i have another cup of sump oil / enthusiasm, to calm down, because there’s one thing that really does grate on me is stalkers not pulling their weight when there’s a job to do!
I cannot singularly handed manage a herd of almost 200 head of red deer with the three fields that I have that are shootable safely, one thing that is in my favour is that they are THE correct three fields!
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StephenToast
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"Not willing to get their tits in the sink!"
devon deer stalker
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That is funny
I have a drinks chiller, it's pretty old, but more than does the job holding up to a fallow buck at the required temperature, but I am fortunate, my game dealer is close by so 99% goes there.
As to 'waiting in the wings' I have enough to keep me busy without 'taking' on any more stalking.
Anyway thanks for starting out my day with a chuckle
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