Update from the Plymouth shootings inquest.

[Liveonce]

more today, not looking good for the police.

Plymouth shootings: Gun licence application not referred to manager

Jake Davison killed his mother and then shot dead four others, including a girl, in Plymouth.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[WH308]

I’ve just read the BBC article and from the sounds of it there is a lot of focus on the fact that D&C were found to have “regular non compliance with standards for gun licensing”

What standard would that be HOG? If so one thing that may be a consequence is forced following the HOG more closely??

 

[Jh1986]

I’ve just read the BBC article and from the sounds of it there is a lot of focus on the fact that D&C were found to have “regular non compliance with standards for gun licensing”

What standard would that be HOG? If so one thing that may be a consequence is forced following the HOG more closely??

That'd be a win for lots of people because HOG isn't that bad. It's police themselves, imposing silly ammunition holding limits and extra conditions

 

[WH308]

That'd be a win for lots of people because HOG isn't that bad. It's police themselves, imposing silly ammunition holding limits and extra conditions

I agree, the HOG applied consistently across all forced would be a big improvement on the “postcode lottery” we see now.

 

[Twodogs]

Without trying to bore anyone, The rationale for the Proceeds of Crime Act (POCA) does not seem to be generally well understood.
The PC, as anyone, who has legitimately paid into a pension pot has done do lawfully so the pension will not be subject of the POCA. Had the pension contribution come about as a direct result of crime(s) then arguably it could be subject to the POCA.

As for the question of whether it is a crime to buy a car or a home, simply no. However if the money used to purchase said goods is stolen or the consequence of crime(s) then the purchase transaction would still be lawful but the purchased products could be seized under the POCA, let’s not get into other legislation, as they came about as a result of crime(s). There would also be remedies under contract law.

I really need to get more exciting interests.

 

[terrier1]

Am I missing something does anyone know WHY.
The force revoked Davison's licence and seized his shotgun.
But in 2020 but returned them in 2021 - weeks before the killings.

 

[Klenchblaize]

Call be a pessimist, and much more, if you wish but irrespective of any proven failings by the Police I cannot see anything positive coming out of this for shooters.

K

 

[Mike L]

Pessimist.

 

[Stalker62]

Am I missing something does anyone know WHY.

What is the purpose of an inquest?​

An inquest is a public judicial inquiry to find the answers to a limited but important set of questions:

• Who the deceased was
• When and where they died
• The medical cause of their death
• How they came by their death

It is usually the 'how' question that is the main focus of the inquest. The Coroner cannot, in law, deal with any other matters.

It is a fact-finding process. It does not deal with issues of blame or responsibility for the death, or with issues of criminal or civil liability. These can be addressed in other courts if necessary.