Vorn EV30, transporting your rifle?

[Triggermortis]

Having received an EV30 as a birthday present I’ve since been transporting my rifles in an Ogdens rifle bag whilst driving from home to the farms, then using the EV30 whilst there, my thoughts are that the rifle would not be “securely covered” in one of these whilst being transported, what’s your take on it?
Triggermortis

 

[Greenmist]

Never used one, but looking at photos it looks secure, how do you feel it isn't?

 

[malmick]

I've used my EV30 since they came out anywhere I needed to take my rifle. It's as securely covered as it needs to be. With a collapsed pair of quad sticks on the side of by the rifle most people in public places assume they are walking sticks or camera tripods and don't give it a second thought.

 

[Triggermortis]

I’m thinking securely covered means not visible and you see the barrel and stock on my rifles.

 

[Greenmist]

I’m thinking securely covered means not visible and you see the barrel and stock on my rifles.

Surely if its in your car that shouldn't be a issue, securely covered to me (I may be wrong) means working parts are not visible and it can't be fired, I see your point with having an exposed barrel or stock if you're in public, this can be remedied by covering the barrel/stock thats sticking out

 

[slider]

Put an number cover over the barrel

 

[SimpleSimon]

Have I missed something?

Where's the phrase "securely covered" come from?

 

[malmick]

EV30 has a sock that goes over the barrel, on my .308 with a mod on the sock extends into the rifle recess. I've added a short lanyard with quick release clips so that it doesn't go adrift.

 

[Rutland lad]

Securely covered only applies in areas where the public have access.
They don’t have access to your car (or the land your shooting on) therefore in my humble opinion, you’re safe to use it to transport rifle to and from home and shooting ground.

 

[Electric Ian]

For public places a rifle sock does the job.

 

[hendrix's rifle]

I stick a waterproof cover from @Monarch Country Products over mine and leave it in the vorn. When I get out I stick the mag in and crack on

 

[NickJ]

I gather a Vorn was deemed as a suitable cover in a case in Scotland (but it was around land access.)

Similar to above I use the Vorn cover for crawling on the hill, snow, v wet etc and that would do it Vorn RC - Rifle Cover 100cm - Fog Green

 

[Whitefront]

Securely covered only applies in areas where the public have access.
They don’t have access to your car (or the land your shooting on) therefore in my humble opinion, you’re safe to use it to transport rifle to and from home and shooting ground.

The public have statutory access to most private land in Scotland and to all designated access land (ie right to roam land - typically open moor, mountain and marsh, state forestry, as well as privately-owned common land) in England and Wales, as well as all linear public highways (including minor ones, such as public footpaths, bridleways, byways etc) and permissive ways. This is why, even when in your private car, your firearm should be covered and not openly visible when driving on a public road, or parking in a supermarket car park, etc.

However, the Vorn, when used with the barrel cover, meets the legal requirement of covering the firearm.

Furthermore, there is always the get-out of having a "reasonable excuse", which would cover most instances of firearms being carried openly across land to which the public have access but to which you have a legal right/permission to shoot.

 

[Rutland lad]

Your vehicle falls into the definition of a property under PACE 1984 I believe for the purposes of a Section 18/32 (search after arrest) so it’s not quite a public place.
If the firearm is out of view - no issue. For example it’s in the boot or under a blanket.

However, I do not disagree with your overall point, just the semantics of the law which is (as usual) is not definitive about anything but subjective to the circumstances.

I’d actually like to see the definition of this particular point that you made - However, the Vorn, when used with the barrel cover, meets the legal requirement of covering the firearm.

It sits awkwardly in the original wording of the Firearms Act.