You can dramatically reduce it by removing the ones that show aggression.
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Possibly, although I’ve also observed first hand a large dog being stopped in its tracks by a human - it really does depend.
A shovel is a great leveller when needed…
It will to most people but your std terrier class would find few difficulties in murdering a human infant. No Breed and good selective breeding is the single most important factor. Any of my Labs can bite hard enough to break major human bones , yet if you look at this breed its the most popular dog breed working , assistant , sniffer dog and pet ! I am very sure you can really screw any breed up though if you select the wrong stock to breed . Which comes down to the human owner that wont take the responsibility of selective breeding seriously
Morkai
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Yes, if you're a small child, a small woman or frail....
If youre letting a 30kg dog boss and throw you about as a fully grown man, then that man is a b*tch.
I have actually fought for my life with a large / medium breed . I have to say there is some luck that needs to come into things and a great deal of luck to get away without a trip to the Hospital after the event . Death is a real possibility and to a child ? It isn't even need to be a medium size k9Possibly, although I’ve also observed first hand a large dog being stopped in its tracks by a human - it really does depend.
A shovel is a great leveller when needed…
if these type of dogs are a problem how are they allowed in the first place it always seams that
the reactions to these events take to long to impliment and most of the time its the owners who
are at fault they want this type of dog because they are aggressive as a status symble that needs
to be addressed as well
the reactions to these events take to long to impliment and most of the time its the owners who
are at fault they want this type of dog because they are aggressive as a status symble that needs
to be addressed as well
Jamsie
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My staffy buddy (see avatar) is four years old and weighs around 24kg. He has perhaps, the sweetest soul that I have ever seen in a dog and absolutely adores people ... especially children.
He has been fully socialised with people and other animals including cats and is a delight to have around the house. I have trained him properly and set boundaries which I consistently apply when required. I believe that he is happy and content because he knows his limits.
When out and about he is ALWAYS on a lead and under my control and I am watchful of people, particularly youngsters, who would wish to approach and get to know him. I am delighted when the parents of such children take responsibility and ask if their kids can approach first. Calm approaches by other dogs are no problem due to the socialisation he had when he was younger. Aggressive approaches by other dogs are a completely different matter however. At the flick of a switch he will turn into a mini werewolf with muscles bulging, hackles up and teeth all on display. Unfortunately, I don't control the switch but thankfully, on the rare occasions that such encounters have happened, his rapid change in demeanour has been enough for the other dog owner to take the hint and get their animal under control before physical contact takes place. I guess all dogs will defend themselves if they feel threatened and he is no different in that respect.
Training is the key, coupled with a responsible attitude by the owner.
Jamsie
He has been fully socialised with people and other animals including cats and is a delight to have around the house. I have trained him properly and set boundaries which I consistently apply when required. I believe that he is happy and content because he knows his limits.
When out and about he is ALWAYS on a lead and under my control and I am watchful of people, particularly youngsters, who would wish to approach and get to know him. I am delighted when the parents of such children take responsibility and ask if their kids can approach first. Calm approaches by other dogs are no problem due to the socialisation he had when he was younger. Aggressive approaches by other dogs are a completely different matter however. At the flick of a switch he will turn into a mini werewolf with muscles bulging, hackles up and teeth all on display. Unfortunately, I don't control the switch but thankfully, on the rare occasions that such encounters have happened, his rapid change in demeanour has been enough for the other dog owner to take the hint and get their animal under control before physical contact takes place. I guess all dogs will defend themselves if they feel threatened and he is no different in that respect.
Training is the key, coupled with a responsible attitude by the owner.
Jamsie
Foxyboy43
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Possibly the most sensible post on this entire subject!
The only potential problem with a properly trained and controlled dog regardless of breed is when idiot owners and their untrained and out of control dogs come out to play - period!
Its because they are scared little cowardly people imho.
Morkai
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shakey jake
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nice judgemental comment
Morkai
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At the other end of the spectrum, how many of us know of someone who has a small dog of some description that constantly tries to nip, be aggressive to other dogs or people, yet because its small the threat is dismissed. Size shouldn't be the factor here, an aggressive dog is an aggressive dog. It only takes one bite to cause serious problems be that through infection or getting a blood vessel
nun_hunter
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This is why I don't like horses!
nun_hunter
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Having been hit by a Malinois at full speed in training I can 100% vouch for that.
shakey jake
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not sure id want to try and find out
I would agree. I like well behaved horses but never truly trust them…I have seen some of the best trained horses in the world (and yes, I mean world) in Oklahoma and Texas it’s a way of life, and we saw some amazing training in them…but I still wound thy want to sit on one’s back!
nun_hunter
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I've got a similar dog to you although about another 10kg. What gets me is those who don't have their dog on a lead that runs over when I'm clearly getting mine to sit calmly and they're all over him. He has enough and will tell them off and all of a sudden I'm in the wrong because I've got a dangerous bull breed
Yep. Dogs I've never felt out of control with . Horses on the other hand, they're mental.
markj1
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A couple of years ago I was walking down a side street in Edinburgh with my daughter, when a young lad - a 'youf' - was coming towards us followed by a small puppy off its lead. I couldn't make the exact breed but it was one of them bully type dogs.
The puppy approached my daughter happily wagging his tail. My daughter bent down to pet him. The 'youf' muttered several times "Don't touch ma' dog" "Don't touch ma' dog" and walked away. He wasn't intimidating, just matter-of-fact.
My initial thought was that this puppy is being raised and trained to regard anyone other than its owner as a potential threat. And therein lies the problem.
As for vetting owners rather than banning dogs, I think it's a mixture of both. With firearms licensing, the FAC holder is being vetted, but at the same time there are certain types of firearms that are banned.
Similarly, we can vet owners of certain breeds via a licensing scheme, but ultimately some breeds will need to remain banned.
The puppy approached my daughter happily wagging his tail. My daughter bent down to pet him. The 'youf' muttered several times "Don't touch ma' dog" "Don't touch ma' dog" and walked away. He wasn't intimidating, just matter-of-fact.
My initial thought was that this puppy is being raised and trained to regard anyone other than its owner as a potential threat. And therein lies the problem.
As for vetting owners rather than banning dogs, I think it's a mixture of both. With firearms licensing, the FAC holder is being vetted, but at the same time there are certain types of firearms that are banned.
Similarly, we can vet owners of certain breeds via a licensing scheme, but ultimately some breeds will need to remain banned.
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