Young Farmer shot Dead

[martyn52]

How do we stop these so called tragic accidents?

https://www.derbyshire.police.uk/news/derbyshire/news/news/south/2024/february/murder-investigation-launched-after-man-dies-in-bretby/

 

[Stalker62]

It is an on-going investigation - 'incident' is perhaps a more appropriate word.

Let it run its course.

 

[Lloyd90]

Looks like two lads out shooting and one’s shot the other by accident.

Been arrested for murder so they can interview him fully under the appropriate caution.

Likely that will later be dropped / downgraded etc.

I am massively speculating however and know nothing of the incident.

A sad loss. RIP.

 

[baguio]

Lack of training I believe? Not that that will go down well on here! Very sad. Hope lessons are learnt and that people listen!
RIP young man. Thoughts are with the family.

 

[Apthorpe]

The same way we stop all other accidents. By being as careful as we can. Accidents are inevitable, and gun-related accidents are extremely rare. If only people were as careful with cars, stairs, domestic appliances, ladders, walking, eating and so on.

 

[Apthorpe]

Lack of training I believe? Not that that will go down well on here! Very sad. Hope lessons are learnt and that people listen!
RIP young man. Thoughts are with the family.

It does seem somewhat prejudicial given that nobody knows any details of what happened.

 

[User00053]

Tragedy and thoughts with all concerned, rip Charles Kinston.

 

[baguio]

It does seem somewhat prejudicial given that nobody knows any details of what happened.

Well I do know some of the details and not surprisingly when accidents happen, it was totally avoidable. This happened over 2 weeks ago.

 

[gixer1]

RIP young man, a tragic accident by the sounds of things and such a rare occurrence in the U.K. shooting community.

 

[Apthorpe]

Well I do know some of the details and not surprisingly when accidents happen, it was totally avoidable. This happened over 2 weeks ago.

Fair enough. Accidents tend to be totally avoidable individually, but that is not the same as it being feasible to avoid every tragedy. I have sympathy for both individuals.

 

[User00053]

Think many have heard the general gist of what may have happened but remains to be seen what the police make of it all.

 

[baguio]

I hope this is well advertised amongst our community. It's a reminder to each and every one of us that we're only one trigger pull away from a tragedy.

 

[3red dogs]

Got a few young lads our way that get small rifles (223 etc) and make themselves out to be deerstalkers.
Dont get me wrong.
Great lads. But untrained and banging small deer species into the food chain.
They think that I am grumpy !!!
Am I?

 

[palmer_mike]

not really possible to say anything meaningful at all given the lack of information in the link provided

 

[Bo Diddley]

Got a few young lads our way that get small rifles (223 etc) and make themselves out to be deerstalkers.
Dont get me wrong.
Great lads. But untrained and banging small deer species into the food chain.
They think that I am grumpy !!!
Am I?

Show the young upstarts this...

 

[Skietindiekop]

Well I do know some of the details and not surprisingly when accidents happen, it was totally avoidable. This happened over 2 weeks ago.

I too am aware of some of the facts about this incident. Unfortunately the media seem to have made several assumptions that are way off the mark.

 

[baguio]

Got a few young lads our way that get small rifles (223 etc) and make themselves out to be deerstalkers.
Dont get me wrong.
Great lads. But untrained and banging small deer species into the food chain.
They think that I am grumpy !!!
Am I?

And yet many of the bigger voices on here are against mentorship’s being a requirement for new FAC holders. IMO (and I have been shot down for it on here several times) safety should never compromised and mentorships are a good thing for everyone.
Maybe this accident might make them change their opinions?

 

[Bo Diddley]

I'm not up to speed on this case... but local to me, and not that long ago, a very keen, hungry, and experienced shot, with deep pockets, that can afford to travel to far-flung places like Argentina dove shooting (always disappointed if he doesn't get a day of 1000) shot his good friend dead when they were out night shooting rabbits..... he was understandably upset about it and they even have a day's shooting on the estate in memory of the deceased, so $hite happens, thankfully not often within the shooting community, we are a fairly decent sensible level headed bunch.

 

[Heym SR20]

Tragic accidents will happen. I do think that when the appropriate time comes the details of such accidents should be made widely available so that we can all learn from such tragedies.

At the moment the shooting community has a tendency to try and hide away and gloss over such incidents.

I don’t see such incidents as any different to another rural accident whether it’s with a chainsaw, a tractor etc. A momentary lapse of concentration is all it takes.

 

[reiver]

Accidents do happen. 18 months ago I was shooting clays and the gun on the stand managed to shoot his son on the neck shoulder!! I was standing right next to him on his other side . Lad survived but I think there’s still a few pellets working there way out .both were very lucky .