Havnt you read it there was a deer dog there the day after my dog failed as youv kindly pointed out, it carried on tracking after I saw her to make sure? You said I have clearly hit?? Your the one telling me earlier there's no evidence of it. I always take Critism oboard from people I value and respect.
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Havnt you read it there was a deer dog there the day after my dog failed as youv kindly pointed out, it carried on tracking after I saw her to make sure? You said I have clearly hit?? Your the one telling me earlier there's no evidence of it. I always take Critism oboard from people I value and respect.
jamross65
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My mate, Nelson on here, many years ago shot a doe in the neck. She ran off. Went back several days before he found her. She was stood next tonight roe in a field eating grass. It was falling out the hole in her throat before it reached her stomach. He managed to shoot her...
jamross65
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i didn't say a 'deer dog', I said a 'trained tracking dog'. There is a world of a difference. Well did the deer fall down for some other reason than being struck by a bullet? I said there is evidence if you've struck it, you've just not found it yet. Why so touchy? You've hit a deer, don't know for certain where and in trying to help by suggesting you call out someone who knows what to do. If you e done that then fine. If the dog used is tracking on a lead to indicate hair or meat /blood or other sign, then fine. If it's running about like a headless chicken how the hell is it going to show or indicate sign????? If you've carried out that as a last resort then you've truly done all you can.
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But I didn't notice any kind of abnormality like what youv described jam bare in mind I'm very close to her 40 yds away watching with binos as far as I thought leaving her for another day was just my way of saying youv won I know deer management is not a game and is not treated as one by myself but I love deer and if I can get away with not shooting them I will I've clearly made the wrong choice. It seems Iv learnt a lot more than not neck shooting deer side on.
The dog was tracking on a long lead and followed the path I had marked before I lost her and waited several minutes the day before. Well I haven't done all I can I should of shot her.
jamross65
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Did you contact UKSHA, or UKDTR? You said 'I've won'??? It's a shame you see it that way and not for the genuine 'advice' I was trying to offer.
I am inclined to agree with MJ and Ranger 22. I am simply at a loss as to why the opportunity to shoot the 'same' animal was not taken! It MUST have a wound of some kind, whether large or small, which, even at this time of the year may be vulnerable to infection.
Being involved with animals myself, both wild and domesticated, for many years I have seen both succumb to wicked injuries of one sort or another. They are able to continue feeding and display 'normal' signs of their species behavior for some time before ultimately being overcome and consumed by their predicament!
It would, I feel, have been both humane and sensible to have taken that second opportunity to shoot!
Having all being said, BIJSSG, not one of us is perfect at anything, we are, all of us, on one big learning curve and we shall all make errors along the way. Provided we learn from them!
Being involved with animals myself, both wild and domesticated, for many years I have seen both succumb to wicked injuries of one sort or another. They are able to continue feeding and display 'normal' signs of their species behavior for some time before ultimately being overcome and consumed by their predicament!
It would, I feel, have been both humane and sensible to have taken that second opportunity to shoot!
Having all being said, BIJSSG, not one of us is perfect at anything, we are, all of us, on one big learning curve and we shall all make errors along the way. Provided we learn from them!
It is me Jamross refers to having shot a deer which ran off. After a few days revisiting the location , I saw her within a few yards of where I had shot her . As he says , as I watched her grazing , I could see the grass coming from the bullet hole in her throat and I put her out her misery.
What I can't understand about your beast , if it was cullable when you first shot it. How was it not so ,a couple of days later with a bullet wound somewhere on its body.
What I can't understand about your beast , if it was cullable when you first shot it. How was it not so ,a couple of days later with a bullet wound somewhere on its body.
Hi my mate was down devon stalking reds twelve months ago along comes this big red stag 80 yds rifle up bag down he goes he thinks great leaves it a 5 mins gets through hedge it jumps up and of he goes. He follows the blood trail for about half mile into the woods where he has no permision to shoot so leaves the gun in the car. Walking through the wood see it lay down just the tip of his anterlers.Next thing its up gone never to be found.He whent back same time this year shot a big stag same place 10 yds down he went.Looks at it and thinks what a beauty ill mount that cuts the cape brings it home takes it to the taxidermist. 2 weeks later taxidermist rings says you now tjhis was neck shot with 243.No 270 i use to shoot 243 shot same side same place how lucky was that.
And over the last few hours I agree myself I think I was too soft and only now after hearing of the horror stories I realise I :::;ed up big time what I ment by 'it's won' is she has escaped death so I'd let her enjoy life instead of shooting her, but that's not correct as in terms of welfare for her. It won't happen again absolutely harsh lesson chers
I ment the doe had won if she escaped death the first time I said I'd leave her to enjoy life. I do the same with a magpie call bird at the end of the season she's spared
Interesting thread this one,
I think most of the pros/cons, do's and don't opinions have already been thrown in the pot so no need to go over them again,
Also as said before, shoot enough deer and at some point something will go on.
High, Side on neck shots are something I personally haven't taken for many years after something happened to me with a Red that sounds very similar to your experience bijssg. I was very fortunate to be on high ground and able to watch her make her way across the valley to a neighbouring farm were she went to cover in a small copse,
This was in the days before mobile phones, so I left my mate on the hill watching with his bino's, and to cut a long story short, drove round to the farm, explained the situation and shot the deer AGAIN.
On inspection of the carcass the bullet had passed right through between the neck and the windpipe with only 2 small holes left by the .270 don't think the bullet expanded at all.
I do still occasionally take neck shots if in cover and they are looking straight at me. On open ground you cant beat one in the gearbox !!
I think most of the pros/cons, do's and don't opinions have already been thrown in the pot so no need to go over them again,
Also as said before, shoot enough deer and at some point something will go on.
High, Side on neck shots are something I personally haven't taken for many years after something happened to me with a Red that sounds very similar to your experience bijssg. I was very fortunate to be on high ground and able to watch her make her way across the valley to a neighbouring farm were she went to cover in a small copse,
This was in the days before mobile phones, so I left my mate on the hill watching with his bino's, and to cut a long story short, drove round to the farm, explained the situation and shot the deer AGAIN.
On inspection of the carcass the bullet had passed right through between the neck and the windpipe with only 2 small holes left by the .270 don't think the bullet expanded at all.
I do still occasionally take neck shots if in cover and they are looking straight at me. On open ground you cant beat one in the gearbox !!
Chers buddy im kind of still glad I posted although can't help feeling even worse now I suppose rather than getting attached to the deer Iv got a job to do, and do it better the next time a situation like this occured (hopefully not) so the cons has been worth it for the deer at least.
Trufflehunting
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There is a huge amount of knollage and experience on this forum
However posting on a forum is a very bad way of communicating
Face to face empathy comes through but it does not transfer onto forums
Don't take things to heart, its often poor communication
You were very brave for your post I take my hat off to you
Every one gets a chance to learn from this post even the arm chair stalkers
Onwards and upwards
However posting on a forum is a very bad way of communicating
Face to face empathy comes through but it does not transfer onto forums
Don't take things to heart, its often poor communication
You were very brave for your post I take my hat off to you
Every one gets a chance to learn from this post even the arm chair stalkers
Onwards and upwards
I would have thought there would be a bullet wound on the animal somewhere, something most have caused it to hit the deck and stagger off??
Me to friend
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