Work / life / stalking balance.

It's always been a struggle to fit fieldsports of any kind into my life, primarily because I live in the Big City and so every time I go fishing, shooting, stalking, it's a whole expedition out of town, sometimes with overnight stays, etc. That also makes it expensive. Before I started shooting, I was an angler, and that was limited to holidays. That said, holidays were long and I had few constraints. No money and no transport, but enough freedom and opportunity. These days, the expense is less of a problem, the free time is what's really in short supply. The logistical problems remain the same though, there's no escaping from that. I find I can't properly enjoy my stalking or shooting adventures if I think my absence is putting too much of an additional burden on Mrs PM, mostly looking after Young PM on her own, which already happens a fair bit because of work. Of course, it's always been clear that if I go gallivanting off on my adventures every so often, then it's only fair that I take my turn to offer Mrs PM the same opportunity. Problem is, she doesn't have any hobbies that actually require her to vanish at 3am on a Saturday morning and come back late!

For seven seasons, I was a useless wildfowler. This was in the Dreamtime, before YPM's arrival, but it was the most antisocial form of fieldsport from a domestic perspective. Also, the "returns" were basically nothing at all. Just a pile of muddy kit. I dropped that when I started stalking, and stalking has turned out to be quite a lot easier to fit into life, with the domestic bonus that it quite often actually results in a full freezer.

Nevertheless, the acceptable fieldsports/family life balance has stayed fairly constant over the years. In the Dreamtime, I'd manage maybe 7-8 outings a year (wildfowling, fishing, etc). Now it's more like half a dozen. Which isn't a lot by most standards, and yet my family and friends consider it to be an OUTRAGEOUS liberty that I take.

It used to wind me up really badly. Now, well, I'm reconciled to it and I try to make all outings special. There are many who go out far less. Or in fact not at all.




And then...



... and then there are new hopes on the horizon....

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Apart from the living in the smoke bit, this about sums up my lot - although being nearer to the sport I can make time for an evenings trouting during the long days a fair bit. You are always welcome to pop down to haywards heath and join me on Sussex Piscatorial waters for an afternoon / evening if that would add another outing without an overnight stay!
 
Shooting first for me, absolutely.

I dont mind doing some give and take with it. My Mrs was ok with me going up to Scotland with the lads for a long weekend so by way of repayment I stayed home to do some decorating the weekend after - fair do's and all.

But I've said to her on many an occasion - I'm not giving up the shooting. Thats my thing and it would break my heart to have to stop it.
 
Its 50 odd miles to my grounds but I hit the high seat 30mins before first light then ill sit till say 8.00 and then get changed into a shirt and tie and go off to work starting at 9.

Family don't miss me as they wouldn't have seen me between 4am and 8am anyway, and I still put in a days work.

I have a cover for my deer tray and blacked out windows so having a deer carcass in the back of the car is less of a issue.

Main thing is I am on the road only for about 4 hours for work then back to the office where the chiller is. Not so much of a problem when its sub 5c outside but knocking over a buck in August can be a thing so I prefer to shoot after work in the hot months.


I try to get out twice a week between Aug and April

Compared to my old main hobby of deep shipwreck diving, its massively cheaper and takes up far less time
 
Shooting first for me, absolutely.

I dont mind doing some give and take with it. My Mrs was ok with me going up to Scotland with the lads for a long weekend so by way of repayment I stayed home to do some decorating the weekend after - fair do's and all.

But I've said to her on many an occasion - I'm not giving up the shooting. Thats my thing and it would break my heart to have to stop it.

So that mark on your head is where you had a hat on and not Becca's thumb print then mate ?

Sorry Stu couldn't resist that one.
 
So that mark on your head is where you had a hat on and not Becca's thumb print then mate ?

Sorry Stu couldn't resist that one.

Haha! Ok I asked for that... :D

Fortunately the boot mark on my neck has faded a bit by now, and I was able to cut the leg brace off with my bone saw!!
 
I think the toughest choice lies with what you do for a living. Do you aim for a high salary job, so you can afford to indulge yourself with expensive hobbies like stalking, when you can get time off, or do you go for a low paid (maybe self-employed) rural existence that enables you to include stalking etc as part of that lifestyle choice?
Personally I chose, from an early age, to follow the latter course. I haven't ever made much more than £5000 per year (profit) from my self-employment, but I can pick up my rifle and go stalking whenever I fancy, at minimal cost. What few costs there are (ammo, fuel for pickup) classify as business expenses, so I offset them against income, and claim back the VAT.
So, although I'm what you'd call "cash poor" (i.e very little disposable income) my work / life balance is a lot better than many higher earners, and I don't get stressed!

Interesting situation and similar to one I am thinking might suit me too. I am currently in a PAYE job that affords some luxuries, but I cannot take time off as easily [or for as long] as I would like. I have a pension that would be accessible this year [albeit with penalties for early commencement] but I wonder if the wise move is to live like a monk but indulge myself timewise. For me it is the unknowable future cost of house and vehicle maintenance that niggle...
 
In my post of 5th May considering how lucky I was, I should have given credit to my wife - our 48th wedding anniversary took place on 2nd May and she insisted we go to a trout fishery where she could sit and watch me fish. Her logic was that I would then have a happy days fishing and we could go out for a celebratory meal in the evening - It was perfect from my point of view and I genuinely believe she enjoyed the day as well.
 
Interesting situation and similar to one I am thinking might suit me too. I am currently in a PAYE job that affords some luxuries, but I cannot take time off as easily [or for as long] as I would like. I have a pension that would be accessible this year [albeit with penalties for early commencement] but I wonder if the wise move is to live like a monk but indulge myself timewise. For me it is the unknowable future cost of house and vehicle maintenance that niggle...

Just do it, or you'll be forever wishing you had!

A mate of mine decided on a major lifestyle shift a few years ago, sold his business and sold his (fairly large) house. Invested the proceeds after settling debts, and now rents a little cottage. Enjoying life immensely without a care in the world, despite now having only a minimal disposable income.
 
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Being an outdoors type of bloke I have oft eschewed money and taken up lesser roles/pay simply to be outside.There were times when the big money was on offer which usually equated to selling half of ones liver etc and now as an Aussie on the aged pension (66) I just want to kick back and enjoy whats on offer in the world.
My office is different to many members but there are those that are out in the field everyday too and I am willing to bet that most wouldn't swap their jobs and lives for a crowded office.
Thinking about this today I stopped and took a few pics of my office or at least the part i was in at the time.

I could forego my pension and gain highly paid employment and be sick to death every day for it...why would you!

No dogs! Just a wombat sprung trap...*******!

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Note the frost on the slope,it was chilly but just ****ing wonderful.

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"Being an outdoors type of bloke I have oft eschewed money and taken up lesser roles/pay simply to be outside.There were times when the big money was on offer which usually equated to selling half of ones liver etc and now as an Aussie on the aged pension (66) I just want to kick back and enjoy whats on offer in the world.
My office is different to many members but there are those that are out in the field everyday too and I am willing to bet that most wouldn't swap their jobs and lives for a crowded office."
Some years ago I stepped away from a well paid job, gave up the expensive foreign holidays and we simplified (though actually live in a more expensive house out in the country - because we built it ourselves so have a house we could never have afforded to buy!) our lives. So now this is part of my job, and frankly I'm happier than I've ever been, yet with half the income! I will live longer (barring accident/disease) as I'm far less stressed, and more to the point, whatever my lifespan, I will have enjoyed each hour far more. Someone said above that beware your hobby does not become your job and thus a chore - well all I can say for me is that almost 10 years on, it's still a joy!
 
Just do it, or you'll be forever wishing you had!


Finally did it! [Actually the company pulled the trigger so to speak, but I am over the moon] My erstwhile employer shrank the UK workforce by 11% this month. I was part of that number. 2019 is the beginning of a new life independent of steady employment. I am in my 50s, but vigorous enough and strongly suspect that my best years are ahead. I had no idea the weight my work put on me till it was lifted. Wish I had taken VSS's advice sooner.

As this thread declares: live simpler, live happier. All the best for 2019 peeps.
 
Finally did it! [Actually the company pulled the trigger so to speak, but I am over the moon] My erstwhile employer shrank the UK workforce by 11% this month. I was part of that number. 2019 is the beginning of a new life independent of steady employment. I am in my 50s, but vigorous enough and strongly suspect that my best years are ahead. I had no idea the weight my work put on me till it was lifted. Wish I had taken VSS's advice sooner.

As this thread declares: live simpler, live happier. All the best for 2019 peeps.
Love it!
 
I have been lucky with my work and condensed hours mean I get an extra day free during the week.
However I'm also lucky with my work in that it entails visiting bridges and retaining walls along the NE of Scotland.
See attached office view at one of the bridges.

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Worked too long till a month before my 68th year but in that time there were some interesting moments like working on the Roswell airbase New Mexico and hearing the inside stories from the locals, or grafting away in Detroit in 1984 and going down the 2 hr drive through Ohio to Camp Perry for the NRA summer nationals and doing the 3 day US Army Marksmanship course along with my two 15 year old stepdaughters on the M16 and all ammo supplied free, magic moments pulling targets with whiz-whiz overhead. Discovered stalking at 42 and it was my best choice just hard to fit it all in. Now it is all stalk/fresh air ahead for me.
 
I have been lucky with my work and condensed hours mean I get an extra day free during the week.
However I'm also lucky with my work in that it entails visiting bridges and retaining walls along the NE of Scotland.
See attached office view at one of the bridges.

Atb
Ed
Railway bridges?
 
For aft, it has been said afore,
In voices saft an' loud,
We hae nae need, for ever more,
O' pooches on wir shroud...

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I've been reading this thread with interest. At the age of 23 I'm probably looking at this from the other end of the spectrum.
Over the last few years as a student I've enjoyed endless holiday time, allowing me to do plenty of shooting, bits of fishing, helping out with keepering etc. I've enjoyed this hugely. I'm trying to get as much in as I possibly can now. Although money is tight, time is currently plentiful. I'm due to qualify as a doctor in a year or twos time. Time will then rapidly become limited although obscure shift patterns may fit well with stalking at silly times of day, we will see! I'm sure I'll be less able to commit to days pheasant shooting with mates, days on the pigeons etc and, instead, my shooting forays will have to be less planned, more whim based activities.
The tides will then completely turn with there hopefully being more money around but increasingly little time with kids maybe making an appearance at some point. I'm lucky in having a very understanding girlfriend who shoots, too. It certainly helps.
Given that shooting and country related activities are my release from other stressors as well as putting food on the table, I'll have to find some way of maintaining the balance, even if it's rather different to the current one.
 
The reason I work is so that I can provide a quality of life I want for my family and then me. If I get some time after that I squeeze in shooting, OCR racing, knife making etc.
Often if you stop and think about everything you have to do it would just overwhelm you and not get done. But if you just start, it does.
 
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