EU Withdrawal Agreement....

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jimmy milnes said:
Just a thought....
When the dust settles on Britain's leaving of the EU, I wonder how long it will be before a referendum is done on joining again ??
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It will probably need to wait until after that wee nippy sweetie has launched indyref2...
 
alberta boy said:
Normally , I avoid any political discussions on SD . Mostly because it's none of my business , this also applies to American politics and politicians . To be honest , this post isn't about British politicians , it's about the contents of this thread .
I'm exposed to a lot of US media coverage , which as most of you know , is far from impartial , right or left . What I've noticed is that the UK media , and posters on this thread , have now gone down the same path . That , I find disturbing . The middle ground , remember that place , ( where people actually discussed things objectively ? ) has disappeared . Don't get me wrong , I'm reffering to everyone , left and right , so you can all flame me if you want . After reading through 7! pages I've come to the conclusion that either the world is going to end ............ or it might be a good thing . In short ........ have a nice day ........... at least you're not starving in the streets of some third world country . See , it's getting better already .

AB
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you think brexit is bad,,,, you should see the fuss when a cute blonde slots a bloody goat and poses with it.:);):cool:
 
toten scotum est!
The whole situation has been and continues to be a complete shambles.
From the very start the British public has been lied to. The reasons for leaving were at best wishful thinking at worst pure speculation. A thoughtful and wide ranging feasibilty study should have been performed that would highlight the true advantages and disadvantages involved, these should have then been presented to the voters.
The obvious truth is that even now “nobody knows” what will happen. It will be a huge leap of faith.
The “Precautionary Principle” should be applied – . This principle is used by policy makers to justify discretionary decisions in situations where there is the possibility of harm derived from taking a particular course of action. The principle is used where information/knowledge is lacking. It implies that there is a social responsibility to protect the public from exposure to harm, when investigation has found a plausible risk.
Remember that the “situation unkown” also applies to the EU and not just the UK. The EU does not have experience of members wanting to leave. Nobody has sound evidence of what will happen if we leave only speculation!!
Those advocating leaving believe that our trade with the EU will follow similar models applied to Norway or Switzerland, this is despite that these two countries pay for access to the market and do not have any say on what happens within the Union. It is also a fact ignored by this group that the trade agreements are underpinned by EU legislation i.e. Norway and Sweden must adhere to EU regulation!!
It is also known that all items exported by countries outside of the UK have to pay tarrifs for importing and exporting – does this mean that prices will rise in the UK to similar levels as those in Sweden and Norway? Take a look at the cost of basic groceries in countries like Norway, Iceland and Switzerland!!
 
EssBee said:
toten scotum est!
The whole situation has been and continues to be a complete shambles.
From the very start the British public has been lied to. The reasons for leaving were at best wishful thinking at worst pure speculation. A thoughtful and wide ranging feasibilty study should have been performed that would highlight the true advantages and disadvantages involved, these should have then been presented to the voters.
The obvious truth is that even now “nobody knows” what will happen. It will be a huge leap of faith.
The “Precautionary Principle” should be applied – . This principle is used by policy makers to justify discretionary decisions in situations where there is the possibility of harm derived from taking a particular course of action. The principle is used where information/knowledge is lacking. It implies that there is a social responsibility to protect the public from exposure to harm, when investigation has found a plausible risk.
Remember that the “situation unkown” also applies to the EU and not just the UK. The EU does not have experience of members wanting to leave. Nobody has sound evidence of what will happen if we leave only speculation!!
Those advocating leaving believe that our trade with the EU will follow similar models applied to Norway or Switzerland, this is despite that these two countries pay for access to the market and do not have any say on what happens within the Union. It is also a fact ignored by this group that the trade agreements are underpinned by EU legislation i.e. Norway and Sweden must adhere to EU regulation!!
It is also known that all items exported by countries outside of the UK have to pay tarrifs for importing and exporting – does this mean that prices will rise in the UK to similar levels as those in Sweden and Norway? Take a look at the cost of basic groceries in countries like Norway, Iceland and Switzerland!!
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You cannot come on to the SD and write such a well balanced and objective contribution ha ha ha. Well said.
 
Klenchblaize said:
And its not just 7 pages!

But however many there are I've yet to see the question of "how green is our Brexit?" raised, which is rather surprising given how many SD members indicate a passion for not just pulling the trigger but the environment they have the good fortune to hunt in.

If we are truly concerned at what this challenge can deliver for future generations I would suggest we better evaluate what Brexit does or does not mean for our much beleaguered wildlife, the countryside in general and last, but not least, our off-shore waters.

Or is this too much to hope for from The Stalking Directory?

K
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Good post.

I'm off out stalking now. I'll drop in here for a look when I get home this evening. If you guys have spent all day yabbering on about Brexit I will feel sorry for you all, even the ones I don't agree with (which seems to be most of you!)
Have a nice day!
 
EssBee said:
toten scotum est!
The whole situation has been and continues to be a complete shambles.
From the very start the British public has been lied to. The reasons for leaving were at best wishful thinking at worst pure speculation. A thoughtful and wide ranging feasibilty study should have been performed that would highlight the true advantages and disadvantages involved, these should have then been presented to the voters.
The obvious truth is that even now “nobody knows” what will happen. It will be a huge leap of faith.
The “Precautionary Principle” should be applied – . This principle is used by policy makers to justify discretionary decisions in situations where there is the possibility of harm derived from taking a particular course of action. The principle is used where information/knowledge is lacking. It implies that there is a social responsibility to protect the public from exposure to harm, when investigation has found a plausible risk.
Remember that the “situation unkown” also applies to the EU and not just the UK. The EU does not have experience of members wanting to leave. Nobody has sound evidence of what will happen if we leave only speculation!!
Those advocating leaving believe that our trade with the EU will follow similar models applied to Norway or Switzerland, this is despite that these two countries pay for access to the market and do not have any say on what happens within the Union. It is also a fact ignored by this group that the trade agreements are underpinned by EU legislation i.e. Norway and Sweden must adhere to EU regulation!!
It is also known that all items exported by countries outside of the UK have to pay tarrifs for importing and exporting – does this mean that prices will rise in the UK to similar levels as those in Sweden and Norway? Take a look at the cost of basic groceries in countries like Norway, Iceland and Switzerland!!
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some might say since 1973.
 
Cottis said:
You cannot come on to the SD and write such a well balanced and objective contribution ha ha ha. Well said.
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Sorry Cottis but how can you say what he has written is well balanced when he states that only one side of the leave/remain campaign was lies or speculation..
Wasn't it Billy Bragg who wrote in one of his songs
''When you wake up to the fact that your paper is tory, just remember there's two sides to every story''
 
EssBee said:
toten scotum est!
The whole situation has been and continues to be a complete shambles.
From the very start the British public has been lied to. The reasons for leaving were at best wishful thinking at worst pure speculation. A thoughtful and wide ranging feasibilty study should have been performed that would highlight the true advantages and disadvantages involved, these should have then been presented to the voters.
The obvious truth is that even now “nobody knows” what will happen. It will be a huge leap of faith.
The “Precautionary Principle” should be applied – . This principle is used by policy makers to justify discretionary decisions in situations where there is the possibility of harm derived from taking a particular course of action. The principle is used where information/knowledge is lacking. It implies that there is a social responsibility to protect the public from exposure to harm, when investigation has found a plausible risk.
Remember that the “situation unkown” also applies to the EU and not just the UK. The EU does not have experience of members wanting to leave. Nobody has sound evidence of what will happen if we leave only speculation!!
Those advocating leaving believe that our trade with the EU will follow similar models applied to Norway or Switzerland, this is despite that these two countries pay for access to the market and do not have any say on what happens within the Union. It is also a fact ignored by this group that the trade agreements are underpinned by EU legislation i.e. Norway and Sweden must adhere to EU regulation!!
It is also known that all items exported by countries outside of the UK have to pay tarrifs for importing and exporting – does this mean that prices will rise in the UK to similar levels as those in Sweden and Norway? Take a look at the cost of basic groceries in countries like Norway, Iceland and Switzerland!!
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If, - IF the signing up to the Common Market had been left just to trade, and politicians of all parties in government since that signing by Ted Heath had left well alone, rather than 'integrating' the UK within a greater political organisiation that became the 'All ruling' EU it's unlikely the UK and the EU would find itself in the position it is.
However, you're right no-one knows what the future outcome will be. But, when the dust settles on a truly once again independent UK, I'd bet all I have this great nation will survive in style.
We're just built that way and have no need of other countries political masters interfering with what we as a nation build.
just my opinion.
 
jimmy milnes said:
Sorry Cottis but how can you say what he has written is well balanced when he states that only one side of the leave/remain campaign was lies or speculation..
Wasn't it Billy Bragg who wrote in one of his songs
''When you wake up to the fact that your paper is tory, just remember there's two sides to every story''
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If not facts, his post includes more fact based observations than anything that most people on these types of thread can offer. It is of course just opinion though but still holds far more water than most from my point of view.

What is certain, is that we are all better placed now than two years back in terms of our level of understanding with regards to the potential effect it will have on us.

It is a shame people could not vote now. Everyone would be far better informed about the situation and we might see more people voting with their head rather than their heart.
 
One of the reasons I don't want to Spey the hound is that the operation is a full blown hysterectomy.
She is quite chilled out, great at pointing, air scenting, trail follow up, and wonderfully self controlled and self disciplined. But not aggressive, and I do want a bit of agro in her in case I get a runner and she can nobble it.

I am concerned that by speying her and removing the ovaries which produce good hormones it will affect her drive and personality?
 
Cottis said:
If not facts, his post includes more fact based observations than anything that most people on these types of thread can offer. It is of course just opinion though but still holds far more water than most from my point of view.

What is certain, is that we are all better placed now than two years back in terms of our level of understanding with regards to the potential effect it will have on us.

It is a shame people could not vote now. Everyone would be far better informed about the situation and we might see more people voting with their head rather than their heart.
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Yes we are all a good bit wiser now than two years ago, but who's fault is that ? Both sides of the line !
I voted out and I've never made it a secret, I would vote exactly the same today.
Do I blame the EU entirely for the spineless sh1t shambles this country has become ''in my opinion'' No I do not but they certainly have a disproportionate amount of blame.
 
I wonder if the EU would be kicking up such a fuss and trying to screw the pants off one of the country's that leach off it more than donate to it ?
Think we ALL know the TRUE answer to that one don't we !
 
What's your tactics to get out hunting when the long-haired general says NO! ? ?

For me it's like an analogy with the b word (brexit shhhhh!). Sometimes I've just gotta get out an go, so I'm like 'f**k it! See yous later, I'm off' and I'm out the door and off to the woods. And I know I will usually get frosty vibes when I get back and a good bit off work to do.

The alternative is I don't get out quite as much as I like, but I compromise, get out a bit and it's sweet and harmony.

Too much of the former is no nookie, and lots of work to do.
The latter is happy bird, nice food and good vibes.

Just like the b word, let's talk hunting, what do you chaps do to get out, when you just gotta go ? ?

Good Vibes,
Hayduke
 
Hayduke said:
Can we talk about hunting and dogs and proper stuff now?
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possibly in "vets corner" or "deer dogs and tracking" two excellent areas provided solely for the discussion of the above topics.

It never fails to both amaze and amuse me and I suspect a few others why the "off topic" section is such a surprise to some that its not about deer related stuff.
the clue is in the title,,
I mean,, you wouldn't place a for sale add in introductions and expect it to sail would you?


Off Topic
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General chat and non-stalking related


small wonder there's so much confusion over brexit:rolleyes:
 
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