dpf filters

Watch out for VAG 1.6 and 2 litre diesel engines which have been called back for the so-called engine ‘fix’ as a result of the emissions scandal. In many cases (check the web), the so-called fix has made a previously good car into an undrivable and undependable wreck. This applies to certain engines only, VW, Audi, Seat etc. Any main dealer can tell you if this has been done. Don’t be fooled by the offer of a year’s guarantee. You may end up with a service car for weeks while your new pride and joy is off the road. Quite a few of these cars are around.
 
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It’s not “worse”

It’s just the minimum standard of production is what o would call it .


Likes of shell add their own additives etc to it apparently

It’s all the same stuff from same refinery just add their own recipe of these additives to make it better.

Lot of boy racers used to use it as cheaper when the Subaru Imprezas first came out ..... and the engine management light would come on.
mechanics used to say just run some vmax or non supermarket fuel in and light would go off.

How true above is I don’t know but was explained to me by few mechanics like that.

I did my own tests and on my old shogun 2.8td in the winter back n forth to work I did notice that the shell vmax diesel did make things just that wee bit smoother less rattly and seemed more power marginally, just overall smoother “better”

Was it perceived ? Like a placebo maybe ... I dunnoe if it’s true or marketing hype .

Paul

Indeed, many Scoobies were mapped to 98 Ron and used to run lean on 95.

Jap imports I believe were used to 100 Ron...

Must admit, I always thought that diesel was diesel regardless where you bought it and that it was the special additives that made it supreme.
 
Hi Finch.
What Engine have you mate?
My Mercedes Injectors would not have survived that. They are notoriously sensitive to fuel quality.
It's a mk 2 Grand Vitara DDIS so essentially it's a Renault Megan 1.9 engine. I've had it remapped as well.
 
Hi Finch
I was told it was common rail diesels with piezo injectors that will not tolerate any fuel contamination.
 
That must be the case. Certainly hasn't hurt mine.
I started using additives because the Grand Vitaras are notorious for dpf problems and mine on the usual Tescos fuel I was using would produce clouds of sooty smoke under heavy load that was embarrassing and alarming. If I booted it to clear the system after spending a night tooling round fields in first gear shooting the massive cloud of smoke was just horrendous.
Started using Wyns dpf cleaner additive until a mechanic told me it was basically paraffin which made the fuel burn hotter and produced cleaner combustion. So I used paraffin instead. The difference in the amount of smoke produced is instantaneous and night and day dramatic. Then I thought I'd try the premium fuel. It was as smoke-free as the treated cheap stuff with slightly better fuel consumption, so I've stuck with it.
 
Hi

re VW diesel engines - lots of information on the UK Passat Forum, suggests (backed by Swedish Transport bods) 50ml of 2-stroke/10L fuel (low ash on specs list) helps for a hotter burn and cleaner dpfs. One fellah with the last 6? mot's has a record of the reduction in particulate output since been adding, now miniscule. Sure its car/engine dependent but seems a significant improvement.
re VW 'Fix' - better to have it done and then have the engine management system remapped - for a more efficient engine and a better driving experience.
re fuel additives - a friend did research/testing at Brookes Uni on this - said the 'add-pack' in Asda (at the time, few years ago) was better. My VW (diesel) engine cars always gave 5-10mpg minimum more using this...........................

L
 
Hi

re VW diesel engines - lots of information on the UK Passat Forum, suggests (backed by Swedish Transport bods) 50ml of 2-stroke/10L fuel (low ash on specs list) helps for a hotter burn and cleaner dpfs. One fellah with the last 6? mot's has a record of the reduction in particulate output since been adding, now miniscule. Sure its car/engine dependent but seems a significant improvement.
L


Is that 50 ml of 2-stroke oil or oil/petrol mix?
 
Check you’ve got a light that comes on on the dash and goes off when it’s started

Take it for a run and if it runs ok with no smoke it should be ok

What are you thinking of getting ?
Found a freelander 2, 24000 on the clock and 13 plate thats why i wanted advice on dpf,anyone got any views on freelanders.
 
My Shooting buddy has got a freelancer 2 and it’s absolutely fantastic according to him, he wants to buy something newer but can’t bring himself to sell it


He did have a disco 2 that was a money pit before
 
Strange! When I took mine back for its first service, I asked about the dpf and was told: "You don't have one if you have AddBlue."
I work for a German company. We indeed make an engine that uses only and SCR (adblue) system. The exhaust system will look like a dpf. But it is a catalyst for the reaction to occurr to reduce high NOx output.
Again heat is required. An SCR engine runs hotter than dpf's. But this is done by loading the engine with a flap in the exhaust to maintain an exhaust temp of 300 DegC +or- 20. SCR injection can then be done and the NOx brought to a legal limit. You will get puffs of smoke on these engines. Other items to note. Single turbo and less sensors. So potentially less costs. Much easier to work on. It's been out a long time on the trucks. So is solid technology now.

To touch on some of the other comments and thoughts.
We also make a dpf system. As said we use a compound turbo arrangement with Egr and dpf.
A dpf engine runs cold in engine terms. Is also not efficient due to egr and engine timing. Hp for hp dpf against scr the scr is more powerful. So like a cold fire. It makes smoke. So the dpf catches the smoke. To clear the spot from the smoke. The exhaust temps need to be 350degC for passive regeneration. Regeneration is 650degC but this needs fuel injection into the exhaust to achieve. But can't go ahead without the temp reaching the above. So now you see why driving or loading the engine creates the above.

More points to mention. If you have smoke on a dpf tailpipe it's cracked. So I wouldn't not buy it. You will see steam from these on most winter days. Shorts runs, long term idling will make the Regen times more frequent. Ok if you do long runs in between or get the engine loaded and creating exhaust heat.
From the day a car is built it's filling the dpf up. As already said Regens clean it. But it still leaves ash in there. So eventually they will need replacement. In my experience they vary from a few years to some that haven't been changed in nearly 10.

Another aspect to consider is engine oil type. The wrong engine oil will contribute to filling a dpf up too.

We have a dpf car. It doesn't worry me. The wife drives 13miles taking 40mins everyday. Been ok. It gets good runs at weekends/holidays and she has a heavy right foot.
I use an 06 hilux. You forget how bad fumes are off these. But it's ok on short runs.
As said else where get a petrol if not going far or achieving the above.

Hope this long post helps. I'm a boring sod who loves engines.
 
Found a freelander 2, 24000 on the clock and 13 plate thats why i wanted advice on dpf,anyone got any views on freelanders.
2 model 10 times better than original.Mines a second car now at 160,000.Only problem rear axle bearing twice!Bearing about £30 but labour £500.Great 4x4 though.Richard.
 
Found a freelander 2, 24000 on the clock and 13 plate thats why i wanted advice on dpf,anyone got any views on freelanders.

I've got a 13 plate Freelander HSE and we absolutely love it to bits, it does everything well, I was a bit dubious about Freelanders, but after I read up about the new ones, I took the plunge, servicing is a bit expensive, but don't regret it a bit
 
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