So . . . .

[deeangeo]

OK a close run race then.

It's like a battle .. one side (Leave) wins, the other (Remain) loses.
Victor takes all.
Did we come 2nd in WW1, WW2 or the Falklands?

 

[Sonicdmb73]

We are not the government, the government want to appear in the best light to the EU, they want the gravy train to continue to pay them.
If we the public don't actually vote on something, then we the public didn't vote, simple really isnt it.
We are being railroaded as usual, so actually it is the EU that is to blame.
As for filament bulbs ruining the environment, you have to be joking.
This world was built on the diesel engine and coal fired power stations, until there is a viable alternative nothing will change.
Electric cars are just so much bull****, never going to be viable for a large majority as nowhere to charge them, not to mention
the fact that we don't produce enough electricity, or have the infrastructure to deliver the needed current to homes to satisfy the fast charge systems.

Neil.
PS It's still the remoaners bleating loudest, like little kids who've had their sweeties taken away.

The biggest bull with electric cars is you still have to produce the electric. How much is produced by burning fossil fuels? Certainly doesn’t all come from renewable energy.

 

[JTO]

The biggest bull with electric cars is you still have to produce the electric. How much is produced by burning fossil fuels?

Most of it in China, so it seems.

 

[Freeforester]

Fwiw, appx 5 people ex 6 on the planet currently derive their energy from coal being burnt, though admittedly not in the U.K. or the near Continent; proponents of renewable energy would perhaps do better to direct their efforts toward persuading the Chinese and Indians, etc. to 'do their bit'; I'm not sure there are enough molehills in the UK where another turbine can be sited to help 'save the planet' before 'the cold' comes though...

 

[levigsp]

First it was filament, then it was xenon, then it was HID and now its LED. I can never keep up so I just jumped to the front.

Xenon is the best light for the human eye to see things by at distance, the only way you will see more mammals is with thermal.

 

[JTO]

In case you missed it:
Petition: Leave the EU without a deal in March 2019.

 

[jimmy milnes]

In case you missed it:
Petition: Leave the EU without a deal in March 2019.

Signed

 

[Bavarianbrit]

PS It's still the remoaners bleating loudest, like little kids who've had their sweeties taken away.
Mine were to the tune of £10K per year.
But who gives a f### eh?
BB

 

[jimmy milnes]

The markets always react worst to uncertainties as I'm sure we all know, that's why we need to get on with it and then things will sort themselves out and start to recover.

My own financial situation has got worse since I voted out but I knew it always would, I voted for the long run not the sprint.

However on reflection the firm I work for has only had 4 wage rises since 2008 anyway,

my point to the last paragraph is that everything that goes wrong will get blamed on Brexit but it probably/possibly would happen anyway, like I've said previously we've had a good few recessions while in the EU but if we get more in the future Brexit will get the blame for sure no matter what the real reason is.

 

[Hornet 6]

PS It's still the remoaners bleating loudest, like little kids who've had their sweeties taken away.
Mine were to the tune of £10K per year.
But who gives a f### eh?
BB

Consider it a leaving gift to the eu.
Mind you as you seem to be so pro german and eu perhaps you should just stay over there, then you can winge all you like about england, and a few will even listen.

Neil.

 

[african jack]

PS It's still the remoaners bleating loudest, like little kids who've had their sweeties taken away.
Mine were to the tune of £10K per year.
But who gives a f### eh?
BB

NOT ME even if I believed you

 

[Bavarianbrit]

Consider it a leaving gift to the eu.
Mind you as you seem to be so pro german and eu perhaps you should just stay over there, then you can winge all you like about england, and a few will even listen.

Neil.

Yes, I am pro but that comes from 40 years of first hand experience of living / working all over Europe and seeing what it brings . The wife/stepchildren are German so that will keep me over here.
BB

 

[Scotty99]

I think the beauty of the referendum was the simple choice of in or out. It was a fundamental question of do you want to be part of the EU or a seperate independent nation, irrespective of any economic consequences good or bad.

I'm not against a second referendum but again the only question can be a straight forward fundamental question of do we come out with the EUs deal that is on offer or no deal.

 

[AN DU RU FOX]

signed.

 

[JTO]

signed.

This one? Petition: Leave the EU without a deal in March 2019.

 

[tom308w]

PS It's still the remoaners bleating loudest, like little kids who've had their sweeties taken away.
Mine were to the tune of £10K per year.
But who gives a f### eh?
BB

I thought you lived in Germany not England

 

[slider]

However on reflection the firm I work for has only had 4 wage rises since 2008 anyway,

.

Luxury!

 

[enfieldspares]

Meanwhile in the fervid fantasy world of Private Pike:

Meanwhile, Defence Secretary Gavin Williamson has suggested the UK could establish new military bases in the Caribbean and Far East as Brexit offers the country a chance to become a "true global player once more".

He told the Sunday Telegraph: "This is our biggest moment as a nation since the end of the Second World War, when we can recast ourselves in a different way, we can actually play the role on the world stage that the world expects us to play.

"For so long - literally for decades - so much of our national view point has actually been coloured by a discussion about the European Union.

"This is our moment to be that true global player once more - and I think the armed forces play a really important role as part of that."

The newspaper cited a source close to Mr Williamson as saying new UK bases could be situated in Singapore or Brunei, or Montserrat or Guyana.

Montserrat? Montserrat? Has this idiot no idea of why the majority of the people of Montserrat have been re-settled in the UK (many in my home city of Leicester) since 1995 or the infrastructure that the island has? He clearly has absolutely no idea at all of what it would cost to set up a meaningful naval base there or in the Far East. We've had to close Navy , Army and Air Force bases and dedicated military hospitals in the UK as we can't afford them. Now Private Pike wants them in the Far East. His mother urgently needs to tell her newsagent to stop Gavin's weekly "Commando" comic.

 

[mchughcb]

Last time the British were in Singapore they surrended and left Australia to fight the japs until the Americans arrived.

 

[deeangeo]

Last time the British were in Singapore they surrended and left Australia to fight the japs until the Americans arrived.

True, but sounds a bit harsh that they ‘left’ Australians to do the fighting until US troops arrived.
UK military had heavy guns facing to sea and underestimated the speed of Japs coming in from North.
Shortages of men and ammunition left them with no other option.
No allied military or civilians enjoyed a good time during that theatre of wartime action.
A sad phase of Colonial history in WW2.