Benelli m2
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He must know his putting his life at risk surley
Wild justice challenge against releasing non native game birds
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reloader54
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with respect.
I will divide your question by 3 and answer,,
1, no sane person would, but imo,,we're not dealing with a sane individual.
2,he loves being the victim, if fact he welcomes it, in his world someone "getting at him" proves he is "right" and makes him more adulated by his numerous fans.
3,never underestimate your opponent, whether he fights with weapon,, or words.
reloader54
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Benelli m2
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That's my wife's nameundoubtedly,, see above post,,
ps, dont call me shirley.
Benelli m2
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That's my wife's name haaundoubtedly,, see above post,,
ps, dont call me shirley.
reloader54
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It'a beautiful name, did you know Shirley was originally a male name, but its use in Charlotte Brontë's novel Shirley (1849) established it as a female name
Did anyone listen to CP on the BBC Radio 4 Today programme this morning?
It started off by discussing butterflies and ended with him asking for empirical evidence into the impact, or othewise, of releasing reared birds into the UK countryside. Apprently there isn't any scientific research into this so he cannot say if there are any positives to organised shooting.
He also stated he was not against shooting.
Listen to the interview before commenting please.
K
It started off by discussing butterflies and ended with him asking for empirical evidence into the impact, or othewise, of releasing reared birds into the UK countryside. Apprently there isn't any scientific research into this so he cannot say if there are any positives to organised shooting.
He also stated he was not against shooting.
Listen to the interview before commenting please.
K
reloader54
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aye right,, and the Holocaust didn't really happen.
both him and avery have previously stated this,,, but it's been proven to be false.
countrryboy
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Been a lot off sense talked throughout ( which is quite something considering it involves basc) but the last few posts do the thread no credit at all.
Just plays right into his hands.
It doesn't matter if said in jest, it's wrote in black and white, the previous 100 odd replies would all be edited and ur just left with silky remarks.
If u really have to make poor jokes do it to mates in the pub not in writing for the world to see,.
If Feo etclook this site I'm pretty sure antis will too, how many miles did he get out off the 2 crows tied on his gate??? Very clever plays right into there hands.
Basc and other orgs get plenty of critism ( mostly deserved) but stupidity really does not help the cause and defeats any good the orgs do
Just plays right into his hands.
It doesn't matter if said in jest, it's wrote in black and white, the previous 100 odd replies would all be edited and ur just left with silky remarks.
If u really have to make poor jokes do it to mates in the pub not in writing for the world to see,.
If Feo etclook this site I'm pretty sure antis will too, how many miles did he get out off the 2 crows tied on his gate??? Very clever plays right into there hands.
Basc and other orgs get plenty of critism ( mostly deserved) but stupidity really does not help the cause and defeats any good the orgs do
Thats
K
That's great. Please arrange for the data to be sent to the BBC by way of rebuttal but remember the evidence CP craves is that which demonstrates the benefit of releasing some 50% of UK's non native wildlife biomass into the environment.
K
Benelli m2
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We must forgive him for this as he is a sick man
Benelli m2
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A male name bugger me no wonder we couldn't have kids haaáaàà
reloader54
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the bbc have never really been anywhere other than pro packham and have ignored various campaigns to rein him in, but then they didn't really do much about saville either did they.
as for evidence of benefits of game bird releases, well they would refute or simply ignore whatever was put forward anyway, as in the past.
you seem to be under the illusion you can reason or convince these people of the benefits of shooting.
they don't care for discussion as was noted by the last minute exclusion of everyone's favourite shooting org from the televised debate on the gl debacle which then became all about crow hanging on gates, and handwritten death threats of a somewhat "questionable origin". and poor cwis gets the attention he so craves.
I'm very much subject to a certain illusion but not that which you assert. I simply believe in attempting to fully understand the motivation and deatil of one's enemy. We will not make the most neccesary progress in these matters without challenging ourselves and the attendant mantras that serve us poorly.
K
K
David, thanks for the response but whatever the political setup in Scotland, any strategic thought or plan would know it would come south, just not when.
No JR even now, despite not needing a victim and GM Police would have been a sensible trial, now lost as 'out of time' - again.
As I remember it, someone did come forward from Lincolnshire but maybe he wasn't a BASC member - many people wont be a member of any org if we all get this wrong.
I note the consultation on the Welsh GL revisions is open to all shooters, members or not, a significant step forward, its time BASC 'ran' a bit more - they have been 'walking' for long enough to know how to do that well enough, even backwards at times.
David, you are only the messenger for a fairly useless org, so not getting at you.
Grey master and Jimbo are correct, by now you should be on the front foot and points ahead of the Police chiefs. It has now got to the stage of disrespect and the whole Police service is having a giggle at the pathetic efforts of BASC. I left the org years ago because I then knew several of the "Directors" from personal contact. I could see that the org was becoming a feeding trough then and over the years my opinion has only been reinforced.
If nothing is done soon you will be shedding staff not employing more to lesser effect and BASC will be as dead as the proverbial duck.
Grey master and Jimbo are correct, by now you should be on the front foot and points ahead of the Police chiefs. It has now got to the stage of disrespect and the whole Police service is having a giggle at the pathetic efforts of BASC. I left the org years ago because I then knew several of the "Directors" from personal contact. I could see that the org was becoming a feeding trough then and over the years my opinion has only been reinforced.
If nothing is done soon you will be shedding staff not employing more to lesser effect and BASC will be as dead as the proverbial duck.
I would be delighted to hear, as i am sure everyone else on here will be, for you to update us all on what your chosen org is doing on medical involvement in FAC and SGC and the Wild Justice attack on game shooting.
Perhaps you have not read the letter from the Minister and our reply showing where we are now and what's happening.
Please you have not read what we did to try and secure game shooting in the face of the threat by WJ
Perhaps you feel introducing thousands of people into shooting each year is not for you, or helping members secure thousands of acres of shooting is not worth while.
Perhaps you feel attacking BASC is the best way to support ,protect and promote shooting, but trust me its not. Working together is the best way forward.
Perhaps you have not read the letter from the Minister and our reply showing where we are now and what's happening.
Please you have not read what we did to try and secure game shooting in the face of the threat by WJ
Perhaps you feel introducing thousands of people into shooting each year is not for you, or helping members secure thousands of acres of shooting is not worth while.
Perhaps you feel attacking BASC is the best way to support ,protect and promote shooting, but trust me its not. Working together is the best way forward.
David, I am sure you sense a frustration, not of your making, I know how you devoted considerable effort and time to BASC but you and your efforts have not been well served by those previously in 'management'.
It is also fair to say that many members who would see BASC in the ascendant, have now to be convinced.
Rhetoric will not do it - it requires the kind of 'coup de grace' that a JR would provide - an unequivocal 'win' of quite substantial proportions not the GL, common sense won that for us all..
I hold out the hope that the new CEO will give us that but it needs to be soon to change the way people think about BASC.
BASC has a challenge which as Shakespeare put it " leads on the greater things " the object of the sentence was " there is a tide in the affairs of men which, if taken at the flood leads ...............
BASC 's time to lead is NOW, another failure of leadership of the shooting world will render BASC dead in the water and members will look elsewhere.
In my humble view BASC is lucky to get this chance (not the staff but the organisation) --to fail now will be the end of the 'voice of shooting'.
I hope, as will many, that BASC will rise to the challenge but ......its up to BASC, there is no more goodwill to trade on .
I would also add that what others do is not relevant - the self proclaimed 'voice of shooting' should either lead or abrogate that responsibility to someone else, in the interests of the men and women of shooting.
It is also fair to say that many members who would see BASC in the ascendant, have now to be convinced.
Rhetoric will not do it - it requires the kind of 'coup de grace' that a JR would provide - an unequivocal 'win' of quite substantial proportions not the GL, common sense won that for us all..
I hold out the hope that the new CEO will give us that but it needs to be soon to change the way people think about BASC.
BASC has a challenge which as Shakespeare put it " leads on the greater things " the object of the sentence was " there is a tide in the affairs of men which, if taken at the flood leads ...............
BASC 's time to lead is NOW, another failure of leadership of the shooting world will render BASC dead in the water and members will look elsewhere.
In my humble view BASC is lucky to get this chance (not the staff but the organisation) --to fail now will be the end of the 'voice of shooting'.
I hope, as will many, that BASC will rise to the challenge but ......its up to BASC, there is no more goodwill to trade on .
I would also add that what others do is not relevant - the self proclaimed 'voice of shooting' should either lead or abrogate that responsibility to someone else, in the interests of the men and women of shooting.
Not so long ago someone posted this.........
Precisely why I have been a critic for a long time now. It generally isn't the staff at working level, there may be one or two - It has been the management level arrogance and problems and dear god, the COUNCIL has presided over all this.
The people on the Council should be ashamed of how little has been done to steer this organisation effectively. Wildfowlers v game shooters v stalkers which is why that MUST not be replicated on the ground.
Show us what you are made of BASC before you deserve our trust. I'm with NGO until the worm turns.
Hope lies with the new CEO and his tenacity and clear strategic thinking - so let us see some of that.
If that doesnt happen within a year, BASC is dead for me and I will never comment again - since one does not speak ill of the dead.
Know who stole the soap box........
Tim.243
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