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Stalking locked down?
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Sika-Hunter
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Please you can't tell me that you have nothing in the freezer from all the winters stalking and are desperate to get out in the next 2/3 months to make a point and defy government strict advice. Whats the point
Chikentikka
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As someone that works as an engineer keeping the food plants going im not working 13hrs 6 days a week covering the guys who are off, surrounded by quite a few other people to then go into town where there are more people (and f all on the shelves). I will go out, on my own, bag what i can bag and get my family do drop veg tatties etc for me. Im coming into contact with alot less people doing it this way. Im sure there are a few others in a similar situation to me.
Il be going out stalking if my freezer gets low (can't see that). I'll be on my own and have no input from anyone else, safer than going to the supermarket
Chikentikka
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I have given most of it away to family members in isolation im afraidPlease you can't tell me that you have nothing in the freezer from all the winters stalking and are desperate to get out in the next 2/3 months to make a point and defy government strict advice. Whats the point
Woodsmoke
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Have you figured out if you're a fool or a wise man yet? It's not clear to me
Hornet 6
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To all those who are desperately trying to justify going out with gun or rod and line, what is wrong with you ?
We have instructions to stay at home, its not an optional thing, and it will be idiots like you who spread the virus about.
If I had my way, and those already infected had there's you would be minus certificate and anything shooting related, and under arrest.
Grow up and take some responsibility for once in you selfish lives.
Neil.
We have instructions to stay at home, its not an optional thing, and it will be idiots like you who spread the virus about.
If I had my way, and those already infected had there's you would be minus certificate and anything shooting related, and under arrest.
Grow up and take some responsibility for once in you selfish lives.
Neil.
CarlW
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We each make our own choices. Personally, I'm just going to do as I'm told.
Crow Man
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Yes, I have sheep ready to lamb in the next couple of weeks, they haven’t a clue about CV. They still need daily attention, loads of other jobs still need doing. On the other hand, there will be no contact with my son and his partner and my 11 month old granddaughter who loves the farm. Lot of a wrench and definitely NOT NORMAL
on that front weeks will seem like months.
Chikentikka
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Good job it isnt upto you kim jong hornetTo all those who are desperately trying to justify going out with gun or rod and line, what is wrong with you ?
We have instructions to stay at home, its not an optional thing, and it will be idiots like you who spread the virus about.
If I had my way, and those already infected had there's you would be minus certificate and anything shooting related, and under arrest.
Grow up and take some responsibility for once in you selfish lives.
Neil.
If you are on your own shooting and have an accident what happens next, likewise horse riders (saw one this morning on a bridal path near here!!!). Guns in cabinet, we are on lockdown, will not lose my licence sorting the foxes out, will probably be able catch up with that later in the year.
Hornet 6
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What part of stay at home do you not understand
For all those that are thinking about going out, you should be aware that the police have been sanctioned to use reasonable force to enforce new rules.
So just make sure that you are right in going out otherwise it might have an adverse affect on your renewal if you happen to have a run in with the local constabulary!
So just make sure that you are right in going out otherwise it might have an adverse affect on your renewal if you happen to have a run in with the local constabulary!
I think unless there is a risk of starvation or malnutrition going out to shoot to get meat will be seen as unnecessary. Those on here are trying to a case forward to do otherwise then just increase government imposing further orders and more importantly killing more people.
It is like accepting that drinking and driving is ok because i wont get caught or do anyone any harm. Not acceptable
It is like accepting that drinking and driving is ok because i wont get caught or do anyone any harm. Not acceptable
AN DU RU FOX
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Just follow the advice before it becomes compulsory to follow it,if you need some veg and a walk and your on your own little patch fine ,just use common sense but in times like this that goes out the window ,if you have an accident of some description that single person (you) then quickly becomes 10 /15. but because you have a few days free you dont grab a rifle and say fook it. stay at home.
hunter243
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I'm going to find it very hard! But I'm afraid I'm just gonna have to put up with it
after all I could think of much worse things to happen to me.
The deer man
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GOV.UK
Food and other necessary goods
This includes those involved in food production, processing, distribution, sale and delivery, as well as those essential to the provision of other key goods (for example hygienic and veterinary medicines).
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Stalking as a totally recreational entity, I can understand if it must cease for a period of time. However crop protection form an agricultural point of view is still part and parcel of food production, whether this is fencing off rabbits and deer or managing them by shooting. This is not about getting around the Government instructions but carrying on with your job (paid or unpaid) as part of 'agri-production' as per food production above.
Personally I feel shooting deer at the moment is fairly pointless as most game dealers aren't taking them and are probably on the verge of closing for the foreseeable anyway. Shooting the odd deer to keep them off a particular crop may be necessary but won't last for long as a solution and then you need to dispose of the carcass into an almost full freezer!
For me all my deer management is local, on my doorstep, and I don't need to come into contact with another soul so if required and legal under the current Government instructions will carry on but in a very limited capacity. As a registered food business I could process the meat following all food hygiene guidelines, then most probably give it away locally.
I am searching/asking for the official line on this and assuming I get an answer I'll post it.
GOV.UK
Food and other necessary goods
This includes those involved in food production, processing, distribution, sale and delivery, as well as those essential to the provision of other key goods (for example hygienic and veterinary medicines).
"
Stalking as a totally recreational entity, I can understand if it must cease for a period of time. However crop protection form an agricultural point of view is still part and parcel of food production, whether this is fencing off rabbits and deer or managing them by shooting. This is not about getting around the Government instructions but carrying on with your job (paid or unpaid) as part of 'agri-production' as per food production above.
Personally I feel shooting deer at the moment is fairly pointless as most game dealers aren't taking them and are probably on the verge of closing for the foreseeable anyway. Shooting the odd deer to keep them off a particular crop may be necessary but won't last for long as a solution and then you need to dispose of the carcass into an almost full freezer!
For me all my deer management is local, on my doorstep, and I don't need to come into contact with another soul so if required and legal under the current Government instructions will carry on but in a very limited capacity. As a registered food business I could process the meat following all food hygiene guidelines, then most probably give it away locally.
I am searching/asking for the official line on this and assuming I get an answer I'll post it.
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Totally agreed - most of us dont HAVE to go shooting and whilst you could argue that stalking is exercise going out still increases the risk of catching or spreading something.
For example - if you have to stop to get fuel on the way to or from your ground (as a lot of us cant just walk outside straight into the woods) you could catch something from someone at the fuel station (or give them something), or from the fuel nozzle handle. It just generally increases the chances of this thing getting shunted around and more people getting it.
From a stalking perspective this is actually quite a good time to be locked down - certainly from my perspective roe doe cull is done, fallow are done and those that are left are twitchy as hell anyway from 5 months of being shot at and the roe bucks are all still in velvet even once we get into April. End of Q1/start of Q2 is a bit of a down time from a stalking point of view. If it starts getting into the end of April and we're still on lockdown then I might have to reassess though! Scotland is another matter but equally I dont know how well driving X hundred miles up north would go down with the powers that be if I was stopped on the M6!
Previous generations were asked to go off to war for years at a time. We're being asked to sit on the sofa with a cup of tea for a month. We can do this!
If its not considered necessary for those of us who do it for a living and have to stay home ,why would it be ok for
a recreational stalker, you just need to accept that its over for the foreseeable future.
Can you walk to your stalking area without meeting anyone ,can you manually carry the carcass home again
without meeting anyone then perhaps you can, if you need to drive then no you can't for two reasons that have
already been pointed out if you are using a car then if you are involved in an RTA you are tying up valuable
resources that are needed elsewhere in the fight against the virus, police, ambulance, hospital and don't say that
is unlikely to happen it can and does no one goes out thinking they will be involved in an accident but there are
hundreds if not thousands every day.
Secondly if you use a car then at some point you have to refuel, fuel stations are known to be one of the highest
risk area due to the volume of people passing through them.
Of course thats a risk a lot of us have to take for essential travel if we live in rural areas ( food or medical needs )
certainly not so that you can carry o a hobby.
My grandson is a keeper who lives up a Highland glen miles from the nearest village but they get lots of
walkers , picknickers, and campers just had word that he and his family have had to go into lockdown my two year
old Great Grand Daughter has come down with corona virus symptoms, hopefully it will prove negative but a
worrying time for all
No idea who or where the contact was made if it proves positive.
For goodness sake think of others! And stay safe.
a recreational stalker, you just need to accept that its over for the foreseeable future.
Can you walk to your stalking area without meeting anyone ,can you manually carry the carcass home again
without meeting anyone then perhaps you can, if you need to drive then no you can't for two reasons that have
already been pointed out if you are using a car then if you are involved in an RTA you are tying up valuable
resources that are needed elsewhere in the fight against the virus, police, ambulance, hospital and don't say that
is unlikely to happen it can and does no one goes out thinking they will be involved in an accident but there are
hundreds if not thousands every day.
Secondly if you use a car then at some point you have to refuel, fuel stations are known to be one of the highest
risk area due to the volume of people passing through them.
Of course thats a risk a lot of us have to take for essential travel if we live in rural areas ( food or medical needs )
certainly not so that you can carry o a hobby.
My grandson is a keeper who lives up a Highland glen miles from the nearest village but they get lots of
walkers , picknickers, and campers just had word that he and his family have had to go into lockdown my two year
old Great Grand Daughter has come down with corona virus symptoms, hopefully it will prove negative but a
worrying time for all
No idea who or where the contact was made if it proves positive.
For goodness sake think of others! And stay safe.
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