COVID-19 “You shall not eat any abomination"

[User00025]

Theism, an acceptance of the concept of a sentient creator, gets muddled up with religion. Religion is theism politicised by and for human beings with the sentient creator ascribed a human identity and a movement created around the worship of that being with rigid human interpretations and human-imposed rules. These movements claim (as does politics generally) to be motivated by a desire to "save" mankind but in fact they just seek control. The idea of balancing salvation with damnation is an entirely man-made device of thought control through fear, the more blatantly so since it would apply to no other species but ours. Nature does not work that way. And since a sentient creator would represent in essence the original creative force, the bringer of order and the ultimate authority in the universe (or the life force of all things, if you like, the existence of which science accepts, has begun to codify and has named "The Laws of Physics) the spirit of any sentient creator is nature.

I may yet become a theist but I very much doubt I will ever be religious. I don't much care for human society at the best of times and I can't see myself joining his clubs.

Pardon?

 

[CarlW]

No spoilers !! I've only just got to the bit about loaves and fishes.

Never mind the butler: the carpenter did it...

 

[EMcC]

Isn't that just what Christ was preaching or pretty damn close to it?

That's what my parents were like but my mother spent a lot of time in church saying she was a sinner and asking for god's forgiveness, I never knew if he did but then I never knew what she was asking forgiveness for.

 

[evetseel]

its been both entertaining and interesting reading all your points of view.

'If there is any one secret of success, it lies in the ability to get the other person's point of view and see things from that person's angle as well as from your own'.

Henry Ford

It is a narrow mind which cannot look at a subject from various points of view.

George Eliot

My OP was not to incite any malice. i felt it was an interesting perspective from an age before science, that could potentially have a very real relevance in what we as humans have come to understand as being normal. it wasnt to preach or force my opinion on anyone. that said, thanks to everyone for replying and not becoming too insulting to everyone's own beliefs or opinions. everyone on here to extent are like minded with regards to loving the land and wildlife upon it. in the whole ive experienced nothing but a group of people that have great respect of it.

 

[Dunwaters]

Now im no bible basher right, but hear me out.....

Swine Flue from pigs
bird flu from birds
Ebola from bats

Now officials seem to believe that the current virus originates from the wet markets in China where exotic animals are stored in close proximity to humans and where humans consume them for their apparent health benefits.

Leviticus 11:1-47
And the Lord spoke to Moses and Aaron, saying to them, “Speak to the people of Israel, saying, These are the living things that you may eat among all the animals that are on the earth. Whatever parts the hoof and is cloven-footed and chews the cud, among the animals, you may eat. Nevertheless, among those that chew the cud or part the hoof, you shall not eat these: The camel, because it chews the cud but does not part the hoof, is unclean to you. And the rock badger, because it chews the cud but does not part the hoof, is unclean to you. ...

Deuteronomy 14:1-29
“You shall not eat any abomination. These are the animals you may eat: the ox, the sheep, the goat, the deer, the gazelle, the roebuck, the wild goat, the ibex, the antelope, and the mountain sheep. ...


Dont say anything about it being OK to eat bats does it! or monkeys! does it!

No mention of birds or fish either

 

[hughsurrey]

Well written Hugh but would suggest you have no faith. Surprising looking at your Avatar.

Its not the first time someone has said similar to me. My defense, if such is required, is that I am aware of the existence of something greater than I in this universe, Creator, Supreme Being (and others you would be familiar with), call it/he/she as you will and, whilst it may or may not be part of the same thing, I am also a believer in Mother Nature and Karma. If a man wants to call these things Jesus, Mohammed, Ganesh, Yaweh or any other name, who am I to say it's not so, but I will not suffer the interpretation of any man or group of people over my own. If I am to be judged then my answer to all charges will be I did the best I could with the abilities and the information I had at the time.

 

[User00025]

Its not the first time someone has said similar to me. My defense, if such is required, is that I am aware of the existence of something greater than I in this universe, Creator, Supreme Being (and others you would be familiar with), call it/he/she as you will and, whilst it may or may not be part of the same thing, I am also a believer in Mother Nature and Karma. If a man wants to call these things Jesus, Mohammed, Ganesh, Yaweh or any other name, who am I to say it's not so, but I will not suffer the interpretation of any man or group of people over my own. If I am to be judged then my answer to all charges will be I did the best I could with the abilities and the information I had at the time.

Now don't get all upset , just mop your brow scratch your tummy and have a lie down.

 

[hughsurrey]

No upset fella, it was actually quite an interesting moment, as I had tho think about my beliefs, which I seldom consider, before I wrote about them. Unfortunately, I write far more formally than I speak.

 

[User00025]

No upset fella, it was actually quite an interesting moment, as I had tho think about my beliefs, which I seldom consider, before I wrote about them. Unfortunately, I write far more formally than I speak.

I didn't think you were upset, glad it made you think about belief. The VSL was just a starter for me, moved on a lot since basics.

 

[tikka_madras]

Sometimes Finch...sometimes...

As has been noted before, everyone Sartre knew was French.