BASC to remove "Legal Expenses Cover" wef 31 July 2020

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Roestalker39 said:
No no stick with them ! Don’t listen to the “ bashers “ they’ve got your best interests at heart :thumb:
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I've always been open to change jimbo, I've asked you countless times what SGA has done to campaign on our behalf or things they have managed to change as you seem to recommend them at every opportunity, however to date you not provided any,
Think if you remembered correctly I've said on countless occasions None are fighting 100% for shooting IMHO they're businesses and if they didn't make money I tell you here and now they wouldn't be there...or do you think that they set up because they wanted the hassle of running the business..
Let's take the lights off BASC to prove my point.... BDS. They class themselves as a charity "which if I'm not wrong is a better tax benefit" but what do they do for all the shooting fraternity that fill their chest on an annual basis?
I have no problem with you or Kes or any of the others who continue to single out BASC for there failings but in the light of balance look at the others too....
 
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Conner O’Gorman you’ve just won the gold award for policitical spin, what a crock of poop, should be ashamed. Your organisation has come in for a lot of flack & this could be the death nail - fingers crossed. You claim you act for the shooting fraternity but don’t actually listen to your membership instead relying on statistical data spun how you wish, blind leading the blind.
 
Ps to jimbo/roestalker .... Since your rejoin 7 months ago your post count is 700 an odd now if I could be bothered to look then I'd imagine that I'd find 80% of those posts would be banging on about either BASC and their failures or DMQ and it's worthlessness..
 
jimmy milnes said:
Is this who you're using? How'd you find them? Have you ever had to use them in anger?
Just looked at the website and 60 odd pa so not out of the way 👍🏻
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Yes, I’ve just renewed my insurance with country covers.
It cost me £33

It includes
£12million Public Liability Cover
£10,000 Personal Accident Cover (including £725 Hospitalisation Benefit, £500 Dental / Optical Cover and £500 Funeral Expenses Cover)
£100,000 Legal Expenses Cover for Protection of Shotgun, Firearm & Airgun Licenses and Criminal Prosecution Defence
 
palmer_mike said:
Yes, I’ve just renewed my insurance with country covers.
It cost me £33

It includes
£12million Public Liability Cover
£10,000 Personal Accident Cover (including £725 Hospitalisation Benefit, £500 Dental / Optical Cover and £500 Funeral Expenses Cover)
£100,000 Legal Expenses Cover for Protection of Shotgun, Firearm & Airgun Licenses and Criminal Prosecution Defence
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Ah right OK I'll look again as I must have been looking at another level of cover at 60 odd
Cheers Jimmy 👍🏻
 
jimmy milnes said:
Ps to jimbo/roestalker .... Since your rejoin 7 months ago your post count is 700 an odd now if I could be bothered to look then I'd imagine that I'd find 80% of those posts would be banging on about either BASC and their failures or DMQ and it's worthlessness..
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Aren’t basc and dmq pretty much one and the same ? So yes , both useless then glad we can agree , I find it funny that many ( like yourself ) have long Moaned about” basc bashing “ yet now are seeing what the more astute of us have seen for years ...... as for the sga they didn’t roll over on the lead ban so that’s a plus in my book and have been campaigning hard on the mountain hare issue , As for other orgs I’ve quit both the ngo and gwct over the lead betrayal Which was a shame particularly as I rated highly the research the gwct does ....but the “ voice “ is by far the worst of the lot
I’d actually respect you more if you stuck with basc now , all the betrayals in the past were just fine and dandy but when it comes to member benefits that’s a real issue ? Certainly shows what people’s priorities are :rolleyes:
 
Woodenbeam said:
Conner O’Gorman you’ve just won the gold award for policitical spin, what a crock of poop, should be ashamed. Your organisation has come in for a lot of flack & this could be the death nail - fingers crossed. You claim you act for the shooting fraternity but don’t actually listen to your membership instead relying on statistical data spun how you wish, blind leading the blind.
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Don’t worry there’s still plenty that can’t think for themselves to keep paying the fees :thumb:
 
I'm not normally one for BASC bashing and I have said before that I think more of you should get involved to maybe try and change things from inside, BUT this is a mistake. Legal problems are expensive and like every other insurance you hope you will never need it and most people don't. But everyone still pays their house insurance and their car insurance and so on. As one or two have pointed out the sums don't add up. If it costs 1,000,000 then divide that by over 150000 members gives a figure of £6,66 per member. I really think that BASC should rethink this one. As for cancelling it and then not giving a reduction in membership fees. That is contemptable.
 
I could be wrong but I don’t think BDS or GWCT insurance cover legal expenses, only public and product liabilities

I must say it’s very nice of BASC to provide reassurance that the firearms team are still available to help members. It’s a pity they aren’t pro-bono lawyers though... Seems to me that half of BASC’s statement is akin to a politician answering a totally different question to the one asked...
 
Maybe someone can give me a sanity check.

BASC has roughly 150,000 members, each contributing £13.50 towards the legal expenses policy, some £2,000,000.00 +, double the cost of the policy ! Removing the policy, without refunding the members, does NOTHING to help the members, just increase the BASC profit by £1,000,000.00 !

Firstly, as Kes says, it looks like whoever negotiated the policy on BASC's behalf, should get another job ! Just how much, on average, is the insurance company having to pay out for the 75 cases ?

Now, what is the legal position of the members ? Are we entitled to cancel the membership, and get a refund of whatever % remains, based on paying for something that has been removed ? WHAT NEXT ?
 
No one at BASC though to employ a couple of barristers full time to handle the 75 cases a year, that would be a much cheaper option and maintain cover for its members.
 
Goodbye to BASC and in my opinion, good riddance. Whether it be my personal experience or perception from their decisions....they're utterly useless. I actually think the bad job they are doing is less effective than not having them at all.

If we are going to stand up against the war of antis, we need an effective organisation to fight them - this evidently isn't BASC. The money is there, we just need a strategy!
 
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