Any others cynical about a vaccine?

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Alantoo said:
only 1.158% of the 272,001 who received the vaccine had an allergic reaction
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Slide six attributed to Dr Thomas Clark's presentation states that 3150 persons who received the vaccine were "unable to perform normal daily activities...". That sounds more serious than an "allergic reaction".

If there is truth in this data, I really do question dosing all our health workers first.

Secondarily, clarity on the nature and duration of their incapacitation is vital to confidence going forward.



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zambezi said:
Slide six attributed to Dr Thomas Clark's presentation states that 3150 persons who received the vaccine were "unable to perform normal daily activities...". That sounds more serious than an "allergic reaction".

If there is truth in this data, I really do question dosing all our health workers first.

Secondarily, clarity on the nature and duration of their incapacitation is vital to confidence going forward.



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That is their definition of a Health Impact Event. It may sound more serious, jargon often does...but it obviously wasn't. Nobody suffered anything more than an allergic reaction. That is exactly what I was saying about the way it is presented distorting the facts...

In context it was only 1.158% who had some form of allergic reaction.... and only 6 people 0.0022% had allergic reactions which were severe enough to be classified as anaphylactic. So the other 3,144 would have been a few hours of hay fever type headaches and sniffles of various degrees of discomfort.

Much better option than a bout of covid-19 I would guess.

The 3150 allergic reactions were reported by the individuals using their mobile phones, so evidently they were not at death's door on life support. Only one person was kept under observation over two nights out of 272,001 according to that report

"Both vaccines have “systemic side effects,” which are “generally mild,” Marks said.They go away after a day.

According to the FDA website, the most commonly reported side effects include tiredness, headache, muscle pain, and chills. The agency said they go away after several days."

I was warned I might have similar reactions to the flu and pneumonia jabs I had a month or so ago.

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Alantoo said:
"Both <mRNA> vaccines have “systemic side effects,”
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AFAICS, the way that the AstraZeneca vaccine operates is a lot closer to conventional vaccine operation. [I.e. it introduces a fragment of the actual virus via an inert mule and lets the body react and develop antibodies.]

It will be interesting to see if that one impacts one in a hundred patients to the same level.
 
zambezi said:
zambezi said:
Slide six attributed to Dr Thomas Clark's presentation states that 3150 persons who received the vaccine were "unable to perform normal daily activities...". That sounds more serious than an "allergic reaction".

If there is truth in this data, I really do question dosing all our health workers first.

Secondarily, clarity on the nature and duration of their incapacitation is vital to confidence going forward.
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It will be interesting to see if that one impacts one in a hundred patients to the same level.
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I was thinking about the breadth of interpretation of the term and definition... “Health Impact Events”.

"The definition of the term is: “unable to perform normal daily activities, unable to work, required care from doctor or health care professional.”

and how that describes such a wide range of conditions...from taking time off work to go and have a flu jab or your ears syringed, or even just to go to a chemists and ask the pharmacist for something for constipation....to my mum's recent/current experience of ambulance and hospitalisation following a fall which broke her hip...and beyond...

Alan
 
Pete1774 said:
I think I would take the advice of medics and scientists over Certified Facebook Experts, the Twitteratti, conspiracy theorists or any of the plethora of people claiming to have "insider knowledge" of these matters.
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I would prefer to look with my own eyes that to trust anything including whatever the chief medical officer says these days.

The retarded adjunct professor was pointing out mass graves in NYC from Covid 19 as reason to be scared about the virus and one of the reasons to justify his tyrannical health orders.
Just showing that a "scientist" is about as useful as a journalist.

Here is a lawyer of all things breaking it down.

 
mchughcb said:
I would prefer to look with my own eyes that to trust anything including whatever the chief medical officer says these days.

The retarded adjunct professor was pointing out mass graves in NYC from Covid 19 as reason to be scared about the virus and one of the reasons to justify his tyrannical health orders.
Just showing that a "scientist" is about as useful as a journalist.

Here is a lawyer of all things breaking it down.

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Are you saying that Hart island has not been used as mass graves before? I checked it and its seems like it has been for a long time before Covid 19 . Why would a CHO not declare this before making generalizations about covid 19, mass graves in NYC unless they wanted to scare people?
 
Are you an expert in anything? Or are you implying that the Victorian Chief Health Officer is a Facebook expert. Well you might be right because in his spare time he writes about climate change.
 
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