Salmond v Sturgeon

Salmond is starting a new pro independence party called Alba
That splits the SNP vote and gets Big Eck back as the heid high yin of something again
Ye cannae keep a good bully and sexual harrasser doon :rofl:

Cheers

Bruce
 
Salmond is starting a new pro independence party called Alba
That splits the SNP vote and gets Big Eck back as the heid high yin of something again
Ye cannae keep a good bully and sexual harrasser doon :rofl:

Cheers

Bruce
Yep and ahem, a real “hands-on” leader too!
Supposing, just supposing Fat Boy not so Slim gets into power - would he be any better or worse than Wee Jimmy for the deerstalking community?
Just wondering chaps.
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SNP up here Boris and his lot down over the Border. They are all self serving lying and incompetent and self serving idiots that between them have turned two closely aligned neighbours with successful and prosperous economies into bitter enemies arguing over the final scraps. Even when there are “independent” inquiries, all they do is just give legitimacy to the lies they are telling.

meanwhile those that can are leaving the sinking ship and going elsewhere.
 
The best thing would be is for both of them to disappear and stay away from politics for the rest of their sad lives. Sadly, like so many washed up politicians, once they have their snouts in the publicly financed trough it's hard to get them out. My only hope is that Krankie realises people know she's a liar and she tries to get a job somewhere in the EU (which is the only reason she's peeved that the UK left the EU!). Maybe another charge(s) will appear against Mr Fumble from the last ten years or so..... after all, even he accepts that he hasn't been a shining beacon of virtuosity (ahem). Good riddance to both of them. Both of them have consistently presented their own bizarre versions of a truth and on that basis they have both brought themselves into disrepute - prison would be my choice for both of them, but just to see the back of them forever would be just fine!
 
The way I see it is that if the SNP can be decimated then that’ll will bring the other parties into play.
At the moment the SNP have almost free reign with the other parties lagging far behind. If enough people vote for Alba to give a real knock to the SNP then I’m all for it. Even if it leads to a hung parliament.
I think these are going to be interesting elections
 
Which will split the vote.. Not down the middle I agree, but unless no one votes for him at all, he will cost the SNP votes.
I think you're wrong, as this isn't the English system.
Just look at the arithmetic. Alba could split the anti-SNP vote, and increase SNP control.

Alba candidates aren't contesting the 73 Constituency seats, as they have no chance there.
They are standing for the 56 regional AMS seats (8 regions with 7 seats each, awarded in proportion to overall party share of the vote).

The 129 Members of the Scottish Parliament are 61 SNP – 30 Cons - 23 Labour - 5 Green - 5 Lib-Dem - 3 Independent MSPs – 1 'Reform UK'.

The SNP have 57 of the 73 constituency seats, but have only 4 of the 56 AMS seats.

The Conservatives won 7 constituency seats, their other 23 are all AMS regional seats.

Labour have 3 constituency seats with 20 AMS regional seats. The 5 Greens all have AMS regional seats. The Lib-Dems have 4 constituency seats, 1 AMS seat.

The whole point of AMS proportional representation is to check the imbalances of 'the first past the post' constituency system, provide effective opposition, and give minority parties a say. If Alba get any votes at all from the AMS share they will weaken the opposition, and strengthen the call for independence which is their avowed intention.
 
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So, if SNP voters vote for the SNP candidate in the constituency election but for ALBA in the regional election we could finish up with more pro independence MSPs in the Scottish Parliament.
That's not good

Cheers

Bruce
 
So much for checking the imbalances of first past the post when it delivers a one party state....

Whoever devised such a system, the SNP? Oh hang on....
 
So much for checking the imbalances of first past the post when it delivers a one party state....

Whoever devised such a system, the SNP? Oh hang on....
You're dissembling now.
If you check, the scottish electoral system was set up by the Labour government when it first granted devolved power to Scotland (Scotland Act 1998). Nothing to do with the SNP. In fact if it wasn't for this peculiar hybrid system they would probably be in absolute control by now.

To add to your ire, Alex Salmond has just appeared on C4 News saying that Alba will be supporting the SNP in the constituency elections, and hopes to damage the opposition parties by fielding candidates for the regional seats. He claims there are a million votes wasted in Tory or Labour strongholds, so Alba will now give the disaffected who want independence an alternative party to vote for. I like Salmond, but can't help feeling the man is programmed to destroy.:cool:
 
Genuinely, there is no ire. I haven't got a stake in any of this. I'm a non-plussed bystander frankly baffled by the inanity of two of the most embittered and unpleasant people in UK politics cat-fighting over the spoils of failure.
I'm well aware that the devolution disaster was another one of Blair's many fiascos. My SNP reference in that regard was a joke.
Incidentally, Blair is Scottish and I rather look forward to Scottish independence if it means we can expel him. If you're not having our nuclear deterrent, we're not having your megalomaniac sociopaths.
 
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