Thanks for that, I was unaware of the CCI Copper. So, I did a Google search to look out the reviews and see what the scuttlebutt is.
Morning Niels, I think you’ll be pleased with the 45 grn fox bullets in .222.Hi all! Joining the lead free .222R frenzy here from Denmark - troubling with my trusty old inherited wonderful Sako Vixen with 1:14 twist!
Lead ban just came to Denmark for all center-fire rifle bullets. effective 2023. However, it means almost certainly that legal bullet weight requirements will be reduced, for troublesome calibers, primarily 6.5x55 over here, but also .270 and .243. Studies from Sweden substantiate this, and it appears a given.
It probably also goes, that the legal requirement for .222R will drop to 45 grains (2.9 grams) or even less, to be legal for Roe.
This gives more options to find a bullet that will stabilize!
I have with great interest read about pulling tips from Barnes TTSX, and will have to try this!
I have tried everything else
Original Barnes Powerhead (TSX) in mid-90s didn't work.
Hand loaded Hornady GMX 45 grains didn't work.
Barnes TTSX 50 grains spread all over, up to 2 feet (!) from center...!!
Lapua Naturalis 50gr does shot, to around 2 inch groupings, perhaps a bit better.
Handloaded Barnes TSX 50gr we got down to around 1,5 inch in grouping.
In comparison, Sako Gamehead 55gr cloverleafs, so does RWS 50gr soft point. even Norma 62 grain soft point shoots well!
Next for me to try is the 45 grain FOX bullet - hydro shock.
Also, the DRT 39 grain is realiably rumoured to be a very effective killer for Roe, although illegal yet. Worth trying though!
Haven't tried terminal ballistics yet, but Naturalis works fine on a cat (!)
RWS just came with the HIT in .222R, but only a 35gr bullet, and the biggest problem seems to be the serious drop in energy beyond 100 yeards - regardless of bullet weight, it does need to have some energy I'd say.
Edinburgh rifles: any tips on pulling tips from TTSX? Can you speak to terminal ballistics on TTSX on Roe?
best,
Niels from Denmark
I’ve been really impressed with how the fox’s shoot
It is the Powerhead (perhaps II) - which is a Barnes TTSX - it doesn't work for me.
I just picked up some 50 grain. 224 Fox Hydro shock bullets. It is a tipless version of the Classic hunter bullets.
I think it is the dealer in Denmark who has named them Hydro chock. It says Classic hunter Tipless on the label.
But that was marketing the ballistic tip only aids bc , any claims otherwise are marketing startedcby nosler when they developed it ballistic however is the key the tips I have recovered at the exit wound or even under the skin atbfirst impact point , so if it does anything for expension it's not doing it that great.
No, sorry, I should have taken. The entry hole was small but a bit bloody, so no real expansion started. the lower part of both lungs were shattered (not shredded) but damage appeared to be just around the bullet trajectory (nok like when I've seen all internals shredded by a .30-06 cone point!) - so, i'd say a 2-3 inch wound channel - lungs heavily damaged - and then the exit damaged 2 ribs, and were this 3-4 centimer (1,5") hole, and the ribs were "cut" more than shredded - it looked like when a good .30-06 passes out on a Red deer. On the exit side, a lot of fur was cut and found on the shot spot. the Roe didn't really show signs on impact and it initially worried me (afraid bullet might have exploded on outside) but again, this is normal, and 40 meter run and then just collapsing from shot in lungs is normal and perfectly acceptable. No doubt as to deadly effective shot. I have to say the impact was 5 cm further back than intended, it walked as a I shot - I would have liked to have set the shot at the top of the lungs where they connect to the heart (manifold) and it might have dropped on the spot or keeled forward. hope to place next shot there. I would say that the expansion of the Fox Hydro Chock is more/bigger than I would have thought, but it looked controlled and no debris/parts on the inside or in the wounds, so I think it did alright. With that exit wound I find it difficult to think it will not make a through shot, but then again - if it had hit bone/should on the way in, then what? But so far really impressed, bot at least because if looks very precise, and that is very important to me.
