Boris Johnson is a Charlatan. Discuss

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Is there a word for someone who is totally taken in by the opposite sex, cannot keep his ***** in his trousers and is so stupid about women that he has a relationship with one who would marry a doormat if it got her what she wanted. Its certainly not Prime Minister, it may be Klutz ?

"a silly and clumsy person (= one who moves awkwardly and often has accidents)

SMART Vocabulary: related words and phrases
Stupid and silly people

• a right one idiot
• airhead
• berk
• birdbrain
• blithering idiot
• dumb-ass
• dummy
• dunce
• dunderhead
• eejit
• need
• need your head examined idiom
• nimrod
• nincompoop
• ninny
• tosser
• troglodyte
• turkey
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I prefer cockWomble

 

[Pine Marten]

Ok…I’ll also play - I think you’ll find that’s an opinion…so to say anyone else is not accurate is ridiculous…

No it isn't.

 

[Apthorpe]

Ok, I'll play.

Erm, I think you'll find it isn't. It's because he's a massively reactionary soso-and-so.

It's because he's Catholic and the only faith permitted in the public sphere these days is Islam.

 

[Pine Marten]

It's because he's Catholic and the only faith permitted in the public sphere these days is Islam.

What??! Really? You think people don't like JRM because he's not a Muslim? You can't see anything else about him (and indeed that whole bunch) that you think people may object to?

 

[Apthorpe]

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I prefer cockWomble

The signature insult of the tribal Guardian reader. Tarquim Anally-Retentive of Muswell Hill finds it pleasingly cathartic to yell after cyclists who do not wear a reflective Sam Browne. Too twee to swear properly and with a possibly psychologically revealing mixture of infantilism and pretention. Are you sure you prefer it?

 

[Apthorpe]

What??! Really? You think people don't like JRM because he's not a Muslim? You can't see anything else about him (and indeed that whole bunch) that you think people may object to?

Yes. The first confected, faux-outraged demands for him to be fired were specifically for him being Catholic. And similar objections follow from the same bunch.

 

[Pine Marten]

Yes. The first confected, faux-outraged demands for him to be fired were specifically for him being Catholic. And similar objections follow from the same bunch.

Right. OK.

 

[Heym SR20]

Boris is a Charlatan.

If you remove the h, l and the 3 a, add a u and switch the last to letters then you are correct.

 

[Heym SR20]

And in other news a complaint has been made against the Stalking Directory for saying nasty things about public figures.

 

[Apthorpe]

Right. OK.

Thank you.

 

[AGR]

So this is a tricky one. As one of the token left wingers on here, I have thought about this a fair bit. I did not like Corbyn at all, but I don't think he was as nakedly venal and utterly unprincipled as Boris and his circle.

He did have a much, much stronger instinct for the totalitarian, and certainly would have put a very different emphasis on the economy-versus-lives trade-off. Which means I think he would probably have taken us into lockdown sooner each time, and probably tried to impose stricter lockdown. It's unclear whether this would really have made much difference to the overall outcome, though I tend to think it would actually have meant that each lockdown would have been shorter, and so probably would (paradoxically) have had less of an economic impact.

Much else of the response to COVID has more or less been entirely determined by variables over which no government has much control. For instance, it is likely that something like furlough would have been brought in (after all, this is really a very socialist intervention anyway) - not doing so would have been catastrophic. Even the vaccine programme would have been broadly similar. We might not have had the early start we had under BJ, but even that hasn't seemed to have made that much of a difference in the long run - the Europeans have now largely caught up, and it's clear that we currently have soaring cases...

I fondly believe the sheer level of corruption in the allocation of contracts might not have happened under Labour, but maybe that's naïve.

Yes to your naivety, they are all pretty much the same.
I bet BJ wouldn't have put his hand up to be PM if he'd known about the pandemic though!

 

[User00026]

Yes to your naivety, they are all pretty much the same.
I bet BJ wouldn't have put his hand up to be PM if he'd known about the pandemic though!

Oh he would! These old boys club members know full well that despite their Eton education, the only way to the multi million private sector ‘consulting’ (lobbying) contracts and securing a future not living off Daddy’s pocket money, is to go through a few painful years of politics and public flogging…then they head off to work for private sectors (likely 90% Middle East funded) and retreat back into their caves like troglodytes.
A Mr. D Cameron springs to mind for one…let’s ruin the country and then head to the hills paved with gold, never to be seen again..

 

[Mungo]

Yes to your naivety, they are all pretty much the same.
I bet BJ wouldn't have put his hand up to be PM if he'd known about the pandemic though!

Undoubtedly.

I suspect that if someone offered him a way out of the job that gave some fig leaf of plausibility, he’d take it.

 

[AGR]

Oh he would! These old boys club members know full well that despite their Eton education, the only way to the multi million private sector ‘consulting’ (lobbying) contracts and securing a future not living off Daddy’s pocket money, is to go through a few painful years of politics and public flogging…then they head off to work for private sectors (likely 90% Middle East funded) and retreat back into their caves like troglodytes.
A Mr. D Cameron springs to mind for one…let’s ruin the country and then head to the hills paved with gold, never to be seen again..

I didn't think BJ went to Eton, but it's interesting that those who do have a natural assumption that they are experts in all subjects even if they'd never heard of it before. (From my limited personal observation! )

 

[I. Farticus]

Johnson with Cameron:

Boris Johnson, the mystery man and the Bullingdon Club: Where are they now? | ITV News

Boris Johnson dressed in all his finery - along with David Cameron - came to symbolise the haves and the have nots. | ITV National News

www.itv.com

 

[User00035]

Oh he would! These old boys club members know full well that despite their Eton education, the only way to the multi million private sector ‘consulting’ (lobbying) contracts and securing a future not living off Daddy’s pocket money, is to go through a few painful years of politics and public flogging…then they head off to work for private sectors (likely 90% Middle East funded) and retreat back into their caves like troglodytes.
A Mr. D Cameron springs to mind for one…let’s ruin the country and then head to the hills paved with gold, never to be seen again..

A dog-whistle caricature. In fact, most privileged old Etonians do not go into politics. If you've had that good a start in life, why would you? It's extremely unlikely your options will be that limited or you'd opt for a career so precarious unless you're addicted to the adrenaline of competition.

The old boy network is not limited to cartoon Tory toffs. The left is rife with it. In fact it depend on it almost entirely. It is who you know, not what you can achieve, that determines who leads the trade union movement and its political wing, the Labour Party. It would have made Stalin proud. Vast areas of the public sector, from local government to big budget Whitehall quangos, always promote sideways and recruit almost entirely from within their own clique. Tribal nepotism and blind adherence to an inflexible ideology is the currency and language of the sanctimonious left. If, like the majority of humanity you are not from their tribe, the left views you with at best disdain and at worst (and very commonly) virulent hatred. You are labeled a sub-human, your rights are forfeit and you voice must be silenced. And then there's the BBC.... That's a thread in itself.

And the most venal, most avaricious, mendacious and unprincipled ex-Prime Minister of them all, Blair, let's remind ourselves, was a labour PM. And don't say he was really a Tory. He was nothing of the sort. An archetypal metropolitan leftist. A million miles to the left of Boris Johnson who himself is a Gladstonian Liberal, not a Tory.

 

[Tim.243]

A dog-whistle caricature. In fact, most privileged old Etonians do not go into politics. If you've had that good a start in life, why would you? It's extremely unlikely your options will be that limited or you'd opt for a career so precarious unless you're addicted to the adrenaline of competition.

The old boy network is not limited to cartoon Tory toffs. The left is rife with it. In fact it depend on it almost entirely. It is who you know, not what you can achieve, that determines who leads the trade union movement and its political wing, the Labour Party. It would have made Stalin proud. Vast areas of the public sector, from local government to big budget Whitehall quangos, always promote sideways and recruit almost entirely from within their own clique. Tribal nepotism and blind adherence to an inflexible ideology is the currency and language of the sanctimonious left. If, like the majority of humanity you are not from their tribe, the left views you with at best disdain and at worst (and very commonly) virulent hatred. You are labeled a sub-human, your rights are forfeit and you voice must be silenced. And then there's the BBC.... That's a thread in itself.

And the most venal, most avaricious, mendacious and unprincipled ex-Prime Minister of them all, Blair, let's remind ourselves, was a labour PM. And don't say he was really a Tory. He was nothing of the sort. An archetypal metropolitan leftist. A million miles to the left of Boris Johnson who himself is a Gladstonian Liberal, not a Tory.

Current options in Labour Party

Sir KS on his cv turned blind eye to Jimmy Savile
J Corbyn (shadded) D Abbot
D Abbot temp leader if JC was ill.

 

[Basil H]

I don't do politics but a quick look around online does not support the allegation that KS "turned a blind eye" to Savile when he was DPP. He seems to be a highly intelligent and reasonable self-made man, so obviously unsuited to a political career on any side !

 

[User00035]

Current options in Labour Party

Sir KS on his cv turned blind eye to Jimmy Savile

And turned a blind eye to the hard left's antisemitism when he wanted to keep in with Chairman Corbyn. Then suddenly when he becomes leader himself he decides that hating Jews is a bad thing after all..

 

[Mungo]

I didn't think BJ went to Eton

?? Really?

He very much did!

Google ‘Boris Johnson Eton report’ for a highly entertaining read.