Clayduster
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Barndoorshovel
If you have put old offences on previous applications I would not worry.
If you have put old offences on previous applications I would not worry.
Speeding and wrong info = FAC Revocation and Seizure
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So not accidentally, instead it was blatant law breaking…..hmmm….sure that would go down well with an FEO.
My point being, if you are going to condemn anyone you better be whiter than white yourself otherwise you are nothing but a hypocrite.
sikamalc
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Well its called self control. I have a convertible Nissan 370z, which is easily capable of over a ton. But I value my FAC and my business, so I dont give into the boy racers smashing the big end out of their Vauxhall Corsa with a £500 exhaust and their £300 sound system bombing by me.
Over a ton on any public road is a crime. There is no need. If anyone wants to undertake speeds such as this on any public road they should go on a track day and let off steam without putting other road users at risk.
Well SM I take it the Nissan is a toy, it’s what I would call a ‘muscle car’ at 3.7ltr and only 20mpg it’s almost as expensive to run as my Def and although more satisfying it’s not exactly ideal for a trip to up to Scotland.
I note that it’s electronically limited to 155 mph so wonder just what it might be capable of if the shackles were removed.
I note that it’s electronically limited to 155 mph so wonder just what it might be capable of if the shackles were removed.
sikamalc
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Its my toy yes, no denying that. If you are sensible you can get 25 mpg. I have no idea what its really capable of speed wise, but its quick!!
I have always been a bit of a petrol head.
My work vehicle is my Isuzu crewcab. Although I have no doubt if I went up to Scotland in the Nissan I would get some funny looks from clients at the airport. You can just about get two small holdalls in the boot
or a set of gold clubs. There's an instruction leaflet inside the boot to tell you how to fit them in 
Not that I play golf, or ever intend to.barndoorshovel
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I have a stage 3 C63 AMG Twin Turbo V8
Running around 740 BHP
Only 3 points on my license which I got driving a sprinter van
if that doesn’t show restraint I don’t know what does
Running around 740 BHP
Only 3 points on my license which I got driving a sprinter van
if that doesn’t show restraint I don’t know what does 
Essex stalker
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I think the faster and more noticeable the car the more careful you are, there's more to powerful cars than just the speed. I'm lucky and have worked hard and built a good business which has given me a good life and means I drive a 200+mph Aston Martin most days however never been "done" for speeding in it, the irony is I did get caught for speeding in my Amorok truck for doing 79 on the A1 on the way to Scotland, I simply forgot it was classed as a commercial so was in fact 19 miles per hour over the limit.I have a stage 3 C63 AMG Twin Turbo V8
Running around 740 BHP
Only 3 points on my license which I got driving a sprinter van
It was my fault, I broke the law so not complaining about the 3 points and the fine. If it had been the car it would probably of been speed awareness course if anything at all
I wonder just how many ‘truck’ drivers realise that they are classed as commercials. There seem to be more of them appearing on the school run lately driven by airheads and left parked (with hazards on) in some ridiculous places.
Rant over
WB
I did once get stopped for 40 in a 30 limit (no excuses, but it was downhill, just around a blind corner from a 60 limit B road and maybe 100 yards into the limit, which I was already slowing down for. Should have stepped on the brakes harder A classic capturing place. The traffic cops were waiting further down the road and beckoned me to pull over. Two officers, the younger one dead keen, I actually got the whole wind your window all the way down, take the key out and put it on the dashboard, hands on the wheel, don't step out of the car routine from him.
The more mature one then wandered over, and we had a polite conversation outside the car, starting with "are you carrying firearms ?" Yes. "Why ? Because I have a booking to stalk deer tomorrow with XXX just down the road, BTW I am already half an hour late for supper with him. He then went away for a private conversation with the keen young one (presumably anxious to up his record before the end of the month and even catch a villain carrying firearms with no good reason, our registered numberplates flag that up). He then sent me on my way with a cheery wave and was told to enjoy your stalking.
Politeness on both sides always best, unblemished driving license for about 40 years (that'll date me).
Apart from a similar incident in Bosnia (except I wasn't speeding at all, just carrying GB plates, shortly after the unpleasantness had ended), where the Polis demanded about £100 cash. I could either go to prison for the night and argue, or pay up, so I did, though they didn't like my Croatian currency and would have preferred GBP notes. No paperwork and no receipts, obviously.
That said I was rather wilder in my younger days, on motorbikes, early Sunday morning rideouts, to the point that I was invited by the Police to take their advanced motorcycling course, along with a few other bad boys who they couldn't possibly catch on their flat twin Beemers nor their cars, so didn't bother trying. They knew perfectly well who we were, an initiative by the Chief Constable, and the local motorbike dealer, neither of whom wanted any more death on the roads, for which I am very grateful, and learned so much more from that. Had to be enlisted for the duration because it was not sedate riding by any means (except that we were told to respect the 30 and 40 limits, otherwise anything goes). So yes, I was once in the Police, for three months, and all the ones I met were a likeable bunch.
The more mature one then wandered over, and we had a polite conversation outside the car, starting with "are you carrying firearms ?" Yes. "Why ? Because I have a booking to stalk deer tomorrow with XXX just down the road, BTW I am already half an hour late for supper with him. He then went away for a private conversation with the keen young one (presumably anxious to up his record before the end of the month and even catch a villain carrying firearms with no good reason, our registered numberplates flag that up). He then sent me on my way with a cheery wave and was told to enjoy your stalking.
Politeness on both sides always best, unblemished driving license for about 40 years (that'll date me).
Apart from a similar incident in Bosnia (except I wasn't speeding at all, just carrying GB plates, shortly after the unpleasantness had ended), where the Polis demanded about £100 cash. I could either go to prison for the night and argue, or pay up, so I did, though they didn't like my Croatian currency and would have preferred GBP notes. No paperwork and no receipts, obviously.
That said I was rather wilder in my younger days, on motorbikes, early Sunday morning rideouts, to the point that I was invited by the Police to take their advanced motorcycling course, along with a few other bad boys who they couldn't possibly catch on their flat twin Beemers nor their cars, so didn't bother trying. They knew perfectly well who we were, an initiative by the Chief Constable, and the local motorbike dealer, neither of whom wanted any more death on the roads, for which I am very grateful, and learned so much more from that. Had to be enlisted for the duration because it was not sedate riding by any means (except that we were told to respect the 30 and 40 limits, otherwise anything goes). So yes, I was once in the Police, for three months, and all the ones I met were a likeable bunch.
Morkai
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Depends on the truck, the new Izuzu D Max is fine to do car speeds, it doesnt suffer the penalty of van speed limits.I wonder just how many ‘truck’ drivers realise that they are classed as commercials. There seem to be more of them appearing on the school run lately driven by airheads and left parked (with hazards on) in some ridiculous places.
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WB
Essex stalker
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That's true but then you have the down side of it doesn't have the tax advantages of being classed as a light commercial vehicle. You have decide what is most beneficial to you, the tax advantage or the extra 10 mile per hour
Morkai
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I know what you mean about the school run though.
This is only from my observations but I swear people who have a 'princess on board' sign seem to drive like a clueless **** compared to everyone else.
Ah, so now we've moved on to cherry picking mixed with straw man. The entire sentence was "Of course I've been over the speed limit. But not 'accidentally' by a margin of almost half the legal national speed limit.". It's called context, you need to read the whole sentence. Or perhaps you can show me where I said I did so deliberately and did so at 100mph in a 70mph limit?
In all the excetement you seem to have overlooked my question so I'll ask it again.
To put it in the context of this site, what would your opinion be of a shooter who admitted that for (roughly) every two intentional rounds fired he negligently discharged another?
sikamalc
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Ok this is going off thread and the wrong way. Lets not end the year on arguments please.
Since you have an inability to avoid the insults….I’ll leave you to it. You carry on with the hypocrisy and I’ll carry on with my clean license.
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Gixer
I was rather hoping I'd get an answer to my question but that's clearly beyond Gixer.
Happy New Year.
No one is saying speeding is not a crime - the point was it’s very easy to exceed the outdated speed limits in modern vehicles.
I’m owned and been in a few fairly fast vehicles, cars, motorcycles etc and I’ve been in and on them on tracks, the continent, the USA (which has varying limits), the Isle of Man (with no speed limits at times), I am fully aware of what restraint is. The issue I have is the “whiter than white” attitude of some and them calling for firearms cert revocations based on something that many could be doing themselves.
Each to their own, you pays your money….
Personally I wouldn’t be handing society even more reasons to take away certs on a whim, they already seem to be creating these without us giving more.
Regards,
Gixer
Your comparison was nonsense…sorry, but it doesn’t justify any response to the question.
You don’t seem to have the capacity to understand the difference between accepting accidental law breaking and discretion and deliberate law breaking.
Happy Hogmanay.
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The requirement to provide the same information every time you fill in the FAC renewal seems a bit over the top,. Once you have declared everything to begin with at the grant stage, "Nothing since last renewal" (if applicable) should suffice.
I do remember It was the same with security vetting paperwork though, where you had to declare all manner of things and any convictions/offences/cautions were only one part of what they wanted to know. It was well worth printing off the completed online form just before pressing the Submit button and keeping it in the file, just so you could remember everything you had put the last time.
The worst I had to fill in was the Russian visa application - pages and pages of very detailed info required. The hardest question was along the lines of "please provide details of all foreign countries visited during the last 10 years, including dates"! My wife and I cobbled together some type of response by looking through our phones for anything that looked like a photo taken overseas and working out where and when it was. Needless to say, we have kept the print-out of the visa application form, just in case we feel like going back (assuming Putin doesn't press the button on the Crimea invasion and set off WW3!).
I do remember It was the same with security vetting paperwork though, where you had to declare all manner of things and any convictions/offences/cautions were only one part of what they wanted to know. It was well worth printing off the completed online form just before pressing the Submit button and keeping it in the file, just so you could remember everything you had put the last time.
The worst I had to fill in was the Russian visa application - pages and pages of very detailed info required. The hardest question was along the lines of "please provide details of all foreign countries visited during the last 10 years, including dates"! My wife and I cobbled together some type of response by looking through our phones for anything that looked like a photo taken overseas and working out where and when it was. Needless to say, we have kept the print-out of the visa application form, just in case we feel like going back (assuming Putin doesn't press the button on the Crimea invasion and set off WW3!).
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