Which 223.

Leica Fortis 6 - Bright and powerful.
Is go for the 527 out of those 3, lovely little scaled action, light and accurate - just what you want out of a fixing rifle.

I’ve owned 3 and still have one in K-hornet.
 
308tikka said:
Get a 1:8 twist.

You wont go wrong with Tikka but if you like refinement, why not treat yourself? Were here for a short time.
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In which case, look at the S&L Legacy. 1:8 or 1:10 and so much more than a ‘tool’ and, after all, we’re here for a short time.......
 
404Shooter said:
In which case, look at the S&L Legacy. 1:8 or 1:10 and so much more than a ‘tool’ and, after all, we’re here for a short time.......
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Watched a video of them on Youtube, I'm sure they're lovely but just my own personal taste, the bolt looks like something off an old WWII rifle, the stock looks ok but you have to pay extra if you want decent wood etc, not sure about the 3 holes in the bolt either ...

Can't say it's wowing me tbh :/

Especially when a grade 3 (where they start putting the 'fancy orange butt pad' on it, started at over £2,500 ...
 
Lloyd90 said:
Watched a video of them on Youtube, I'm sure they're lovely but just my own personal taste, the bolt looks like something off an old WWII rifle, the stock looks ok but you have to pay extra if you want decent wood etc, not sure about the 3 holes in the bolt either ...

Can't say it's wowing me tbh :/

Especially when a grade 3 (where they start putting the 'fancy orange butt pad' on it, started at over £2,500 ...
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If at all possible I would suggest you try and find a Legacy to handle. The bolt action on all the S&L rifles is one of the smoothest actions available.
Here is a couple of photos of the stock on my Grade 2 Legacy.20190417_155217.webp20190417_155023.webp
 
Between my wife I we have five S&L rifles plus I load ammo for four other S&L rifles. All of them will produce sub 1/2" 3 shot groups at 100m. The Legacy is no exception. 20220602_194321.webp
 
Lloyd90 said:
If you had to choose a new 223 rifle, which would you go for?

CZ 527 - most likely the 19" barrel carbine as they have discountinued the model etc and these seem to be what the few places I have visited have in, also would consider the American or Night sky (both 22" barrels), I believe all 3 are 1:9 twist. Tempted by these, decent price, good reputation etc, although slightly off put by the awkward safety etc. Benefit from a proper scale 223 action etc.
Think they price in around the £900 mark.

Tikka T3x - either the hunter or lite synthetic stainless version, both seem light enough, obviously well respected rifles, however they are a one size fits all action and not a small size action like many 223's.
Benefits from great reputation, known for accuracy, build quality etc.
Available in either 1:8 or 1:12 twist rate.
Tikka T3x lite roughtech fluted 223 - £1350 - quite like the look of this one.
Tikka T3X SuperLite Stainless Fluted - £1270
Tikka T3X Lite Stainless - £1185

Sako 85 XS action, a proper scaled down 223 size action.
Sako 85 hunter - £1735
I can't seem to find the regular stainless synthic Sako 85 in 223, only laminate etc.
Unless you want the Carbonlight for over £2750+ :O
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Going down the 223 route myself once i sell some of my wildfowling 10 bores, maybe even my CZ .22 hornet ? as i plan to run reduced loads and full whack long range heavy/long for calibre copper . Tikka T3X 1-8 twist varmint for me with the overlay synthetic .
Its not a heavy gun. The extra action length used to bother me however on the upside it gives scope to change the chambering in years to come
Its time i had another gun with a decent factory Picatinny rail to swap sighting devices , short stiff barrel ( might even have a bit more off the end ) to compensate for a bigger moderator
 
Bowland blades said:
Going down the 223 route myself once i sell some of my wildfowling 10 bores, maybe even my CZ .22 hornet ? as i plan to run reduced loads and full whack long range heavy/long for calibre copper . Tikka T3X 1-8 twist varmint for me with the overlay synthetic .
Its not a heavy gun. The extra action length used to bother me however on the upside it gives scope to change the chambering in years to come
Its time i had another gun with a decent factory Picatinny rail to swap sighting devices , short stiff barrel ( might even have a bit more off the end ) to compensate for a bigger moderator
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I must say the new Tikka T3x rough tech ember looks appealing.

T3x LITE ROUGHTECH EMBER

All the benefits and performance of a T3x Lite model combined with a Roughtech stock.The rough surface texture provides a solid grip throughout the stock in all weather conditions. Muzzle brake is included for recoil reduction.
www.tikka.fi www.tikka.fi
 
C h r i s said:
They would do if we could buy them in 1 in 8" twist without the ridiculous wait.
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I’m currently in the USA travelling around, I managed to handle a T3x rough tech ember, which are supposed to be lite rifles, alongside the T3x lite stainless synthetic.

The rough tech is definitely not as light as the regular synthetic stainless rifle, and tends to be more front heavy.

Looking at them, I believe the T3x rough tech has a thicker / heavier barrel than the standard lite rifles.
 
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