First Deer Calibre Rifle

308.
Chop barrel to 16-18"
Add a suppressor and point and shoot to 300m.

308 is one of the easiest/best calibers to moderate, and is a very effective cartridge with short barrel.

270 or 30-06 is not needed.. to much powder for not much gain!


And the 270 is nearly a carbon copy of a Chinese cartridges 6,8x57 and 6,8x60, that China was testing at Springfield armory back in 1918.
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Also very similar to the 7x64 Brenneke that is 8 years older than 270 Win.


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The 270 is right,smack bang in the middle of the deer shooting Goldilocks zone.
The perfect combination of calibre, bullet weigh and velocity.
It was made for copper monometallic bullets.
With a moderator it's a pussy cat.
That is all! 😀
 
When you go out with your .223 you will invariably see Roe, or bigger, happens all the time!
This happens to me EVERY single time I take my .223 for a walk - no munties to be seen just every other large deer species in the northern hemisphere! I shoot in mainly woodland less than 50m mostly probably average around 20m and when I have the .308 there are munties everywhere they’re pretty much climbing the bl00dy trees but when you shoot them with a .308 at that range it’s 50:50 whether the green stuff appears - I’ve stopped shooting munties with the .308 because of this (and they know it!) however I do love the .308 and have come up with a cunning plan to change the stock on my .308 so it looks like the .223 in an effort to confuse all the deer and give me half a chance of getting one of them.
 
This happens to me EVERY single time I take my .223 for a walk - no munties to be seen just every other large deer species in the northern hemisphere! I shoot in mainly woodland less than 50m mostly probably average around 20m and when I have the .308 there are munties everywhere they’re pretty much climbing the bl00dy trees but when you shoot them with a .308 at that range it’s 50:50 whether the green stuff appears - I’ve stopped shooting munties with the .308 because of this (and they know it!) however I do love the .308 and have come up with a cunning plan to change the stock on my .308 so it looks like the .223 in an effort to confuse all the deer and give me half a chance of getting one of them.
What do you mean by “the green stuff appears”?
 
So why didn't you quote the comment it appeared in?
Because it seemed to flow with the conversation more naturally (i.e. “I agree, and furthermore to this point…”)? Regrets if the intent wasn’t clear.
 
I found this article helpful when I was making my decision.

To summarise the article (and many threads on here), any legal calibre works, skew your choice to what species you’ll be shooting most (I.e if you only ever intend to shoot muntjac, don’t buy a cannon), and make sure gun shops near you have ammo.

The article unfortunately arrived at the wrong conclusion by not recommending the .270 (The Swiss Army knife of calibres, for only the best looking of individuals - I got an exemption), but it was helpful reading.


@Andilicious read this article then buy a .308. I did and haven’t regretted it.
 
The 270 was developed from the 30-06 I believe, and development is generally synonymous with progress and improvement.... 😝

The 270 is a necked down 30-03 (developed in 1903) which was the short lived predecessor of the 30-06 (developed in 1906). The .308 was developed in the 1950s so picking up on your progress and improvement theme the .308 would be “better”. Although the .308, .270 or 30-06 will all get the job done.
 
Like the man says 7x 57 (.275 Rugby).
Ammo not so readily available but it will kill anything you will meet and it's a Gentleman's rifle.

Ahh the Rigby in .275 the choice of the discerning man eating tiger hunter.
 
7mm bullets are bigger than 7mm. .270 bullets are very close to being a true 7mm.
In fact 6.5mm bullets are not 6.5mm. They are in fact a bees whisker off being a true 7mm!

In essence it's all just splitting hairs for no real purpose
 
Most comments are going towards 308.
Nothing wrong with that; it’s popular for good reason.

On the other hand, you’ll shoot a bit better with a 6.5 due to the reduction in recoil and wind drift, though probably not enough to matter at typical hunting distances. Personally, I find 6.5s a bit more versatile as well.
 
Walk into your local gun shop, ask them to show you the selection of ammunition and reloading components for all three chamberings and that will make your decision…
This^^^^^^.
If you buy something that hardly anyone else has (in 2022), please dont complain when you cant buy ammunition or components within your price bracket.
 
7mm bullets are bigger than 7mm. .270 bullets are very close to being a true 7mm.
In fact 6.5mm bullets are not 6.5mm. They are in fact a bees whisker off being a true 7mm!

In essence it's all just splitting hairs for no real purpose

The European convention for categorising bullet sizes is to use the diameter across the lands of the bore for which the projectile is designed to be in, not the actual bullet diameter, hence the differences noted.
 
Most comments are going towards 308.
That happens all the time, in the real world there isn’t a gnats eyelash between most of the cartridges in the middle zone, that is anything between 26 and 30 CAL.
My suggestion would be either the .308 or a 6.5x55 with a slight bias towards the 6.5 because it has less recoil and if its your first deer rifle you’ll want to shoot it a bit but honestly the .308 isn’t hard to shoot.
Either one will do, both are lead ban proof and theres an incredible range of loads available for them.
 
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