First Aid Kit?

[Loler UK]

I don't see the point of that. If you plan to improvise, just plan not to.
The Boston marathon bombing highlighted the failings of improvised TQs, vs commercial.

100%, recommending that for a stalking first aid kit is morally reprehensible IMO.

A CAT TQ is not that expensive in the scheme if things and takes up less room.

Personally prefer a cat to a sof-T, especially for self application.

The standard of training varies wildly between trainers, many with little practical experience or knowledge of the science. The vast majority of paramedics will work for years without seeing major trauma but generally know the science well. Paramedics also carry huge amounts of kit even on a push bike.

Hopefully the vast majority of people on here will never be in a situation which requires it but A TQ and large wound dressing and training to use them (including self application) effectively should be a bare minimum, followed closely by hemostatic gauze and pair of chest seals.

For those of us that are required to perform, even if it's just for 10minutes in our entire life, the trauma won't keep us awake, what we could have done better will.

I've been so disgusted by the poor quality of training not just to stalkers but forestry workers, arborists, farmers and other outdoor industries that I've started to put together some courses with 2former critical care paramedics and former SF medic. I'll post on here as soon as we have some dates.

 

[Eddie P]

100%, recommending that for a stalking first aid kit is morally reprehensible IMO.

A CAT TQ is not that expensive in the scheme if things and takes up less room.

For those of us that are required to perform, even if it's just for 10minutes in our entire life, the trauma won't keep us awake, what we could have done better will.

What he said.

 

[Omega]

As I understand from videos, CAT-7 does not work well for leg injuries - band's width reduces injuries when applied, but leg muscles are too big and strong that it is hard to stop the bleeding. I read on internet that CAT-7 is also not effective on children because their arms are too thin. RAT are narrower and can stop the leg arteries, but can cause permanent injuries if applied incorrectly. And I only come across Out of Stock RAT in UK shops. SP Services, unfortunately, do not have RAT either.
Do you know if SAM XT Extremety Tourniquet is effective for legs and children? I read that they are the most intuitive, though not yet as popular as CAT-7 in the UK
Looked at free training around me - most do not have anything regarding bleeding. Our ambulance services are not great at the moment that I believe we must not rely on them coming on time
Thank you

 

[Stalker62]

RAT are narrower and can stop the leg arteries, but can cause permanent injuries if applied incorrectly.

All TQs can cause permanent injury if applied incorrectly, or applied for too long.

When needed, the lack of applying any TQ can lead to permanent death.

 

[Eddie P]

Rat's aren't as effective as CATs, esp when time to apply is taken into account too. My feelings are that the RAT will cause more localised tissue damage due to the narrow nature of the device.

 

[Eddie P]

As I understand from videos, CAT-7 does not work well for leg injuries - band's width reduces injuries when applied, but leg muscles are too big and strong that it is hard to stop the bleeding. I read on internet that CAT-7 is also not effective on children because their arms are too thin. RAT are narrower and can stop the leg arteries, but can cause permanent injuries if applied incorrectly. And I only come across Out of Stock RAT in UK shops. SP Services, unfortunately, do not have RAT either.
Do you know if SAM XT Extremety Tourniquet is effective for legs and children? I read that they are the most intuitive, though not yet as popular as CAT-7 in the UK
Looked at free training around me - most do not have anything regarding bleeding. Our ambulance services are not great at the moment that I believe we must not rely on them coming on time
Thank you

The CAT has proven itself well in combat on legs, I have applied one to myself to full occlusion with minimal difficulty (being bored is entertaining at times).

 

[Pete1774]

Notwithstanding the obvious benefit of carrying a "proper" first-aid kit - which (in extremis) you will need to survive a catastrophic gunshot injury or to stop arterial bleeding...

In relation to stalking.

Does anyone have any recommendations for a badly bruised ego?

Whiskey

 

[Shabz]

First off book yourself on a course as it’s far better to have the knowledge in the field there and then than have all the kit and less knowhow 30 mins walk away .

I’ve been working in remote, dangerous environments for nearly three decades. I’ve done countless courses in first aid, emergency planning, remote evacuation, helicopter under water escape training and all sorts of survival training.

I was looking for a made up first aid kit to keep in my car as a back up to my personal kit. I normally make them up with the things I need but to save me some admin, I was looking for a ready made kit.

 

[Treedave]

As an alternative to the Velcro/buckle& bar tourniquets I’ve gone for this,

SWAT-Tourniquet - Stretch, Wrap and Tuck Tourniquet

- also works as a pressure bandage (over cellox tape for punctures etc).
- doesn’t need packaging, just rolled up in pack/pocket.
- You don’t need to remember 5 mins of training from 2 years ago as you/your mate are leaking into the ground.
- simple instructions are repeated along its length. A visual guide as to how much stretch/pressure to use for desired result.

This and the cellox gauze live in chainsaw pants/jacket pocket, so I’m never without when I’ve a saw in hand.
The more usually used plasters, wipes and electrical tape etc are in a bum bag that lives in the day bag. It also holds brew & bait so it’s never far away when I’m in the woods.

 

[MarinePMI]

I’ve been working in remote, dangerous environments for nearly three decades. I’ve done countless courses in first aid, emergency planning, remote evacuation, helicopter under water escape training and all sorts of survival training.

I was looking for a made up first aid kit to keep in my car as a back up to my personal kit. I normally make them up with the things I need but to save me some admin, I was looking for a ready made kit.

Not sure if the export, or have a UK affiliate, but I have several of these kits in my vehicles.

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Have a couple of these for the range.

TFAK

Micro trauma first aid kit designed by medical and firearm professionals. Stay alive with chest seals, a tourniquet, and more.

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