Mucked up my renewal - going to be expensive

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25 Sharps said:
Why different to any other firearm transfer from one RFD to another? If it’s going to be a year it will work out far cheaper
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I suppose if you factor in rfd-rfd transfers both ways, it won't be far off the original cost, you could be looking £50 return postage + £10 acceptance fee when sent back per firearm
 
Bowland blades said:
folks dont always understand vat ! Its a balance beam thing someone who it vat registered has to charge vat but claims the vat back on all business expenses spent. If you dont qualify as having reached the vat limit , you can still register and that is often enough the right thing to do if your spending a lot building a new business and yet sales revenue into the business is still low / below the compulsory registration limit . A dealer and there customer and the real difference will always be a toss of a coin
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Generally speaking for retail shops VAT registered then VAT will be included in their prices, hence my assumption the £4 included VAT.

B2B prices will generally not include VAT which will be added and shown separate on the invoice.
 
spanj said:
A well structured and intelligent response. You’ll note I said afaik and is based on my own experience and my force areas methods.
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If you want sensible responses don’t post rubbish. See my other posts on this thread for well structured and intelligent responses.
 
Greenmist said:
I suppose if you factor in rfd-rfd transfers both ways, it won't be far off the original cost, you could be looking £50 return postage + £10 acceptance fee when sent back per firearm
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The OP could go and collect once he has his FAC, so £50 for each firearm, £250 plus £10x5x12 will be £850.

£4.8x5x52 will be £1248.00, if it drags out for longer the saving obviously increases.
 
This is why it is possibly best to support your local gun shop as much as you can, rather than shop online for that scope, NV gear etc. Yes they may not be the cheapest or have all you need but at least you tried them and gave them opportunity to price match. Then at times like this they may consider you as a regular valued customer and least then have some empathy for the situation and may even offer to store the firearms at a reduced rate or even for a period for free.

Hope you get your renewal as quickly as possible.
 
You either renew or you don't mucker. You've been at it for a while now. You know the script with the time frames for putting your renewal in .







sounds like ya wanna keep at it to me ?



The decision is yours . Time to pay the piper or pack it In.

Good luck.in whatever you choose

Kjf
 
Bowland blades said:
Which has a max number to keep and sometimes different classes of firearms etc ? Just like shooters across the nation then on their FAC ?
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You appear to find it hard to accept that RFDs as a business have no max number, possibly the case for RFDs in Lancashire but certainly not down South. May also depend on the nature of the business, small business trading from home or a large gun shop in the high street, example of the latter;
2. is a list of servants, ie staff that work in the gun shop and have access to firearms and ammunition, all who now must have a satisfactory GP report to be employed.


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tim@tcs said:
Nope mine just stated to keep ammunition under lock and key!
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ok obviously its just like us shooters the different forces have their own rules and take on things AT PRESENT we all await the full result of National rules . Dont know where lock and key starts and ends but dealers did otherwise at the last NSS i attended and i know from dealers i use the lock and key must be the entrance door
 
I had no official written down limit on what I held when I was an RFD but there was an understanding that the then existing cabinets I had were capable of holding a certain number of weapons (depending on if pistols or longuns) and that that understood limit wouldn't be exceeded. But from an RFD point of view guns in storage are a pain in the rear. They take up space that could (well once upon a time) being more profitably be used for your own stock that was being bought and the sold. You take a gun in storage and even if £10 a week you could likely in that same week use that space for two guns in and then out that would turn you more profit that in that seven days that the £10 a week storage would return you in six months. In that sense they are no different at all from any other non-moving or slow selling product. They take up space, don't given a good return for the time you have to inventory them and yet require the same weekly care and cleaning regime as do quick moving lines. Time is finite and an item that gives no profit for the time and effort that could be used elsewhere such as in my case which was casting or swaging bullets is bad business.
 
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ColinJ said:
If you want sensible responses don’t post rubbish. See my other posts on this thread for well structured and intelligent responses.
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Hmmm have seen them. Like me you seem to be referring to your own experiences of your own forces practices. Rubbish ? No, just different.

I’m out of this conversation but suppose you will want the last word ….
 
spanj said:
Afaik you have to be invited to reapply as YOU cant apply early. This means in my mind that unless a reminder WAS sent its your flds problem
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I did, I sent my forms and GP bits in 6 months early, then had a call within 48 hours querying some info I'd put on there. 5 3/4 months later I had the certs pop through my letterbox.
 
spandit said:
I have been very busy but also prevaricating about renewing my FAC/SGC. Got round to it this morning, only to discover my licence expires tomorrow. I've had to take them all to a local RFD who is charging me through the nose for lodging. Fortunately, a mate is taking my shotguns for free (or for a beer or two!) but apparently because I submitted so late, they'll treat it as an initial grant and it could take months (Surrey/Sussex).

Keeping fingers crossed but it's going to cost nearly £2,000 a year to have them in storage (5 rifles, 3 shotguns - although I'm getting the actual owner to pay for those - £4+VAT per gun, per week).

I'm legal, at least but it's really frustrating when all their e-mails and answerphone say they're dealing with a huge backlog. Sadly my mate in the police has just left so doesn't hold any sway but he did contact his old manager who told him it would go down as an initial...

Ah well. I'll leave it a few months and then look at just disposing of the rifles as it's not worth paying that much to keep them, frankly. Shame.
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Poor performance on your firearms officer/police force I got notification months before the expiry date from Police scotland
 
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