lksopener1
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Fair play, missed the bit about air rifles.
First foray into ‘premium’ scopes? What would be good?
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What on earth are you buying an £800 delta for when a £350 reindeer is just as good
. Is it 2x as good as the reindeer? If not why buy it??You have no knowledge of using high end glass and by the sounds of it little experience in shooting in the situations where it is of benefit. So you don’t really have a clue but have the opinion that people just have high end glass for bragging rights.
The op is talking about the fact he is air rifle now but planning on an FAC so looking at a premium scope he can repurpose so it won’t be on an air rifle forever.
lksopener1
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I’m that case I’ll stick to what I said should get a good s and b 8x56 for £300.
Agree people don’t buy high end optics for status they are for performance which is vastly improved in better optics.
Agree people don’t buy high end optics for status they are for performance which is vastly improved in better optics.
I bought a Docter 8 x 56mm (26mm tube) for less than £200 about a year ago and sold it for the same price - very good glass indeed for the money. My deer rifle currently wears a Leica Amplus 6 2.5-15 x 56 which is 'bargain' quality glass, but over 5/6 times the price of the Docter. Can only echo the advice on cheapish quality glass fixed mag. I run Hawke Frontier 3-15 x 44 on both my .22RF and .17 HMR - absolutely superb for £459 new but have seen them second hand for 300-ish. Used them on both .308 and .223 for deer and fox respectively while waiting on the scopes I have on them now. Got an Optika 6 on the .223 that I got for £495 from OPW recently - bargain!
TringSaint
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I bought the delta before I found the Rudolph’s. Then I bought two Rudolph’s for exactly that reason - the optical clarity was just as good as the delta but for a fraction of the price.What on earth are you buying an £800 delta for when a £350 reindeer is just as good
You have no knowledge of using high end glass and by the sounds of it little experience in shooting in the situations where it is of benefit. So you don’t really have a clue but have the opinion that people just have high end glass for bragging rights.
The more expensive of the two was £650 which is still 1/4 the price of your 2.5k wonder glass tho!! Don’t know how I will cope with such a shoddy scope? I know, I will just harvest deer as I have been for years.
What’s more amazing is that I can head shoot rabbits at 200m+ with my hmr which has (shrieks of horror and disgust) a 4-16x50 nikko Stirling scope on it
. I must go a flagellate myself with birch twigs and then rescope all of my rifles with Swaros!!
I bought the delta before I found the Rudolph’s. Then I bought two Rudolph’s for exactly that reason - the optical clarity was just as good as the delta but for a fraction of the price.
The more expensive of the two was £650 which is still 1/4 the price of your 2.5k wonder glass tho!! Don’t know how I will cope with such a shoddy scope? I know, I will just harvest deer as I have been for years.
What’s more amazing is that I can head shoot rabbits at 200m+ with my hmr which has (shrieks of horror and disgust) a 4-16x50 nikko Stirling scope on it
I must go a flagellate myself with birch twigs and then rescope all of my rifles with Swaros!!
TringSaint
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You asked the bloody question!!
I said adios ages ago!!
John Gryphon
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@boltgun his sort of thing ha ha.
Pretty much a handful of traditional high end scope makers with the provenance and track record that is associated with the brand and models over time so just decide on your intended scopes uses with maybe a compromise of some sorts and buy the very best you can afford at the time and hope it falls into division one criteria.
If not plenty of other respectable and reliable makes and models which will suffice.
If not plenty of other respectable and reliable makes and models which will suffice.
Would not call it mad buy best you can afford but maybe not totally necessary, friend has a thermion thermal scope on one of his.
John Gryphon
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I am so thankful that none of that hardens me up ha ha...unlike many that walk among us.For the naughty.
What makes you think all Rudolph scopes are made in Japan?
Only one scope on their website states country of manufacture, which happens to be their most expensive scope. None of the other scopes list country of manufacture, because they are most likely not made in Japan……
Lashings of fun takes on a whole new meaning I would imagine but think I will stick with a nice piece of smoked haddock for special occasions.
Think the foot treatment would be a suitable punishment for some offenders administered on weekly basis whilst serving sentence with no shortage of volunteers to administer, but probably viewed as too extreme and vindictive
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Bo Diddley
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This is my go-to gun, topped with a Delta Titanium 2.5-15 X56mm, it never lets me down. Look at the Delta, it's quite a decent scope, especially if you can find a good one 2nd hand at the right sort of money, I picked up a boxed never used one for £385 a few months ago, fantastic deal!
Can't believe what I have been reading.
A Delta Titanium will do all what the OP needs. It will be happy on an air rifle LR or centrefire. Low base mag huge Fov. Tiny illuminated central dot lovely parallax adjustment.
Mine sits permanently on my semi custom stalking .243.
If you search on here. Chester P and I did a lengthy review on 4 top end scopes. Delta Zeiss Leupold and Bushnell if I recall.
Best scope was my Zeiss Diavari should be at £2k but my Delta was optically v close and cost £500. Also alot depends on the OP age and eyesight. As I said if I had limited funds I would have a Delta.
Savings would be spent on a thermal spotter
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A Delta Titanium will do all what the OP needs. It will be happy on an air rifle LR or centrefire. Low base mag huge Fov. Tiny illuminated central dot lovely parallax adjustment.
Mine sits permanently on my semi custom stalking .243.
If you search on here. Chester P and I did a lengthy review on 4 top end scopes. Delta Zeiss Leupold and Bushnell if I recall.
Best scope was my Zeiss Diavari should be at £2k but my Delta was optically v close and cost £500. Also alot depends on the OP age and eyesight. As I said if I had limited funds I would have a Delta.
Savings would be spent on a thermal spotter
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John Gryphon
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Read this today...divide by two and the GBP`s price is budget.
The Pecar Black Carbon 2.5-10×50 a top-notch hunting scope selling for only $700 with many desirable features, and it delivers performance way beyond its price.
The Black Carbon range covers four variables: a 1.5-6×42 ($649); 2.5-10×50 ($699); 3-12×56 ($745); and 5-25×56 ($1195), all with 30mm tubes of aircraft-quality alloy, anodised a dull matte black.
The Pecar Black Carbon 2.5-10×50 a top-notch hunting scope selling for only $700 with many desirable features, and it delivers performance way beyond its price.
The Black Carbon range covers four variables: a 1.5-6×42 ($649); 2.5-10×50 ($699); 3-12×56 ($745); and 5-25×56 ($1195), all with 30mm tubes of aircraft-quality alloy, anodised a dull matte black.
So, 1 top end scope and 3 mid-range scopes then!
With the one premium scope coming out the clear winner.
As a semi premium scope a delta or meopta is probably the best way to go for the OP. Or if he wants to experience top end glass, an 8x56 fixed Schmidt/swaro/zeiss but parallax being set at 100 yards will be an issue so the delta or meopta is the answer, but neither are premium scopes.
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Can’t you reset parallax?
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