Dedicated PRS rifle ?

[jcalleja91]

Well if budget is not a limiting factor have a look at what chassis/stock options you like and what actions they have available and go from there.

Chassis wise I'm bias because I'm sponsored by Vision but I find they do everything the MPA/MDTs do but just look better and are more unique.

 

[finnbear270]

For me looks never really mattered, (ask swmbo), I’m always scruffy!… it’s what it achieves that is for me, the satisfaction, OK, if it looks the part (bit like a Finnlight in .270 for the hill) it’s good, but end result being the ultimate aim in my book, ️

 

[Ronin]

Been involved in steel plate target shooting from the onset - in fact the “staffers” at UK Varminting arranged the very first comp in the uk at WMS long before it was a “cool and hip thing” to be involved in

The competitive scene has come a long way since then

Tactical rifles were common along the lines of rem repeater with mac A5 or AI Aw / DTA etc etc in fact folk shot that comp and the Mendip Quarry challenges (which followed with whatever that worked for them)

Think Snipers Hide Cup as the basis of what we’re were doing back then

I used a Blaser Tac 2 and won the comp at WMS - it was in 308

Comps today - have “evolved” just in the way that F Class has

If you want to be anywhere near competitive you need a “game gun” and have the ability to balance quickly on a large bag

Your game gun need to be low recoiling and heavy (to reduce recoil further) , balance just in front of the mag well and it’s common for such things to be status symbols - with folk changing or getting the “next bestest ever” cartridge annually instead of using what they’ve got and mastering it

If you are agile and mobile and can balance the rifle effectively whilst acquiring targets you will do well

There are some hugely gifted shots in the “scene” who have done well consistently across many years

The common factor in all this is - if you want to be competitive you need to have a game gun dedicated to the cause and practice (a lot)

If you want to enjoy the sport and have fun without pressure get a rifle in a 6, 6.5 mm calibre that can take ten round mags use the stock that it comes with and get on with participating

You can add to the rifle as and when

Your choice of venue is either South wales to the PRS UK venue (the centre of competitiveness)

Or in the Send it Series at Eskdalemuir which is as you know a challenging venue

Both sites offer unique features with Eskdalemuir having a more attached dynamic to the original style of competition (some natural features, movement, less focussed on “get to the prop, put a bag on it, balance the gun, shoot, move on”

Let’s not forget the ethos of the comps is skill, development and maintainence of the same

Skills start with rifle fundamentals and if not maintained will be lost

Choose something suitable - use it and enjoy

Plenty out there to consider and unless you really want something built there are plenty of factory offerings that will get you going

 

[jcampbellsmith]

Some excellent comments, the only point that I would add is that PRS .22 is a cheaper way to dip your toe in the water and there are number of venues supporting PRS .22.

Regards

JCS

 

[jcalleja91]

Been involved in steel plate target shooting from the onset - in fact the “staffers” at UK Varminting arranged the very first comp in the uk at WMS long before it was a “cool and hip thing” to be involved in

The competitive scene has come a long way since then

Tactical rifles were common along the lines of rem repeater with mac A5 or AI Aw / DTA etc etc in fact folk shot that comp and the Mendip Quarry challenges (which followed with whatever that worked for them)

Think Snipers Hide Cup as the basis of what we’re were doing back then

I used a Blaser Tac 2 and won the comp at WMS - it was in 308

Comps today - have “evolved” just in the way that F Class has

If you want to be anywhere near competitive you need a “game gun” and have the ability to balance quickly on a large bag

Your game gun need to be low recoiling and heavy (to reduce recoil further) , balance just in front of the mag well and it’s common for such things to be status symbols - with folk changing or getting the “next bestest ever” cartridge annually instead of using what they’ve got and mastering it

If you are agile and mobile and can balance the rifle effectively whilst acquiring targets you will do well

There are some hugely gifted shots in the “scene” who have done well consistently across many years

The common factor in all this is - if you want to be competitive you need to have a game gun dedicated to the cause and practice (a lot)

If you want to enjoy the sport and have fun without pressure get a rifle in a 6, 6.5 mm calibre that can take ten round mags use the stock that it comes with and get on with participating

You can add to the rifle as and when

Your choice of venue is either South wales to the PRS UK venue (the centre of competitiveness)

Or in the Send it Series at Eskdalemuir which is as you know a challenging venue

Both sites offer unique features with Eskdalemuir having a more attached dynamic to the original style of competition (some natural features, movement, less focussed on “get to the prop, put a bag on it, balance the gun, shoot, move on”

Let’s not forget the ethos of the comps is skill, development and maintainence of the same

Skills start with rifle fundamentals and if not maintained will be lost

Choose something suitable - use it and enjoy

Plenty out there to consider and unless you really want something built there are plenty of factory offerings that will get you going

Just to add.. Bisley is now online with PRS.

First match in December.. multiple planned for next year.

 

[Ronin]

Just to add.. Bisley is now online with PRS.

First match in December.. multiple planned for next year.

I hope they go ahead

 

[jcalleja91]

I hope they go ahead

I think the December match is going to be well attended.

Unknown dates thereafter.

 

[TDR]

Another recommendation for Josh at C2 Precision. I bought a T3x CTR in 6.5 Creedmoor and put it in an XLR Envy Pro Chassis. Took it out for the first time yesterday and was shooting half-MOA groups. The next C2 Precision competition is on 29th December. It'll be my first, possibly see you there?

 

[bowji john]

Another recommendation for Josh at C2 Precision. I bought a T3x CTR in 6.5 Creedmoor and put it in an XLR Envy Pro Chassis. Took it out for the first time yesterday and was shooting half-MOA groups. The next C2 Precision competition is on 29th December. It'll be my first, possibly see you there?

If you are shooting 1/2 MOA groups off barricades then the talent lays not with the rifle, but the chap behind it

 

[Ronin]

Certainly an achievement ,,,using multi position and taking time I can but manage to stay within the 3 ring on a Kraft target

But that’s taking too much time for competitive achievements

Perfectly comfortable with the tactical comps, MOA Challenge, Send it Series and F Class (which I hope to return to soon)

PRS is alas not for me these days (not hipster enough )

 

[TDR]

If you are shooting 1/2 MOA groups off barricades then the talent lays not with the rifle, but the chap behind it

I'm yet to shoot off a barricade. This was prone, so it's all the rifle

 

[User00040]

PRS intrigues me the most, because of the positional shooting element. Lying on your belly with an adjustable front rest is so

I'm attending a 'sniper competition' at the end of the month hosted by 3 SCOTS, which should be a fun exercise.

The rifle that I will be using (7mm08 Remington Varmint made in 1989, shooting 168 AMAX around 2600 fps)

 

[scotch_egg]

PRS or any competition series to be fair in the U.K. will require a fair amount of investment in time and money. The PRS as seen in the United States is very limited in the U.K. but similar events are run at various locations. The only way to achieve results is practice. With CF this gets very expensive so a good .22rf trainer should be considered.

I would say to get the most out of PRS a 6mm that burns between 30 and 38gr of powder is the ideal. However this calibre isn’t ideal for the long range days past 1000m imho. I mean they can reach out but at this distance wind does start having a considerable affect on first round impact.

One rifle for everything really does mean having to compromise. The long range days at Eskdale do appear to be more relaxed than a PRS event. You need to choose what you would get the most out of.

I have an Accuracy international just because I wanted an AI. Not the most suited to PRS with a harder bolt lift than a 2 lug action.

 

[jcalleja91]

PRS or any competition series to be fair in the U.K. will require a fair amount of investment in time and money. The PRS as seen in the United States is very limited in the U.K. but similar events are run at various locations. The only way to achieve results is practice. With CF this gets very expensive so a good .22rf trainer should be considered.

I would say to get the most out of PRS a 6mm that burns between 30 and 38gr of powder is the ideal. However this calibre isn’t ideal for the long range days past 1000m imho. I mean they can reach out but at this distance wind does start having a considerable affect on first round impact.

One rifle for everything really does mean having to compromise. The long range days at Eskdale do appear to be more relaxed than a PRS event. You need to choose what you would get the most out of.

I have an Accuracy international just because I wanted an AI. Not the most suited to PRS with a harder bolt lift than a 2 lug action.

Thats the only downside of the AI I find is the bolt lift..

Some of those custom actions are like butter.. BUT.. I've seen some failures from those custom actions with home loads.. I don't want to jinx it.. but my AT.308.. bombproof

The factory division I believe is getting some adjustment in the rules which will make it more accessible for those on a budget.

 

[RifleTuner]

I started off shooing PRS in Australia with a Tikka T3 in a KRG chassis. I like using a chassis for the modularity and ability to easily add accessories, but the KRG is hard to ballance. I built a new rifle on a Curtis Custom action, MDT ACC chassis, triggertec trigger and a heavy contour barrel. Its much easier to balance in the ACC chassis than my old one was. The below video is me shooting a stage at the club match last weekend with my 223 rem trainer barrel. And yes, I know I am slow. I like to shoot the matches, but dont have time to practice enough to be competitive. This was a 10 round possible stage, but I timed out before I got the last shot off. The sequence of shooting off the props is usually the shooters choice, but this stage mandated a specific order for each position.

 

[finnbear270]

If 34 mils in a turret could take a .308 out to 900yds, Add in a 20 mil / moa rail what would you expect to get?

 

[User00040]

If 34 mils in a turret could take a .308 out to 900yds, Add in a 20 mil / moa rail what would you expect to get?

Depends on the load, scope and how you have the scope mounted.

Burris XTR rings give you up to 40MOA of cant.

Don't exceed half of the scope's elevation travel in mount inclination if you still want to zero at 100m/yards.

 

[Andilicious]

As the thread on subject is no longer open for further replies, what are the thoughts on the above, Manufacturer / Builder / Cartridge -Cal. ?

I am awaiting a variation for 6BR and a 6.5PRC just for this very reason. I couldn’t decide between them so just stuck both in for now.

I want a PRS comp rifle but also want to shoot out to the long range targets. Sensible compromise says stick with 6BR and live with its performance past 1000 yards as I won’t be doing any comps or anything in that regard, it will just be for fun on the range at that distance and I don’t really want 2 setups.

I’m planning on using (but may go Howa action to save a few pennies) a R700 based action, TriggerTech trigger, IBI barrel in an MDT chassis and I will be having Brock & Norris assemble the thing for me following excellent service and work from them in the past.
As said above it will also give me the option to upgrade to a custom built action if I want to down the line if I go with a R700 action now.

I currently have a standard off the shelf Howa in 223, aside from it being shortened and the trigger setup by B&N, bedded into a GRS stock and it’s a laser so I’m thinking one of these will outshoot me anyway and the money I save will pay for the reloading gear. But that’s not how the Gucci rifle lifestyle works and I’m sure I’ll be balls deep in a custom action when the time comes

I already have a Strike Eagle scope sat here to get me going but again I’m sure I will want to upgrade that at some point as well. Been looking at the Kahles DLR as well as the Vortex offerings. I was quite happily surprised how well the Strike Eagle performed on my “lightweight” 243 up at Eskdalemuir the other week so I’m going to sit tight and start with that to begin with.

Can you link me to the closed thread? I don’t think I’ve seen that one.

 

[jcalleja91]

If 34 mils in a turret could take a .308 out to 900yds, Add in a 20 mil / moa rail what would you expect to get?

On hornady 4dof mine would be able to dial to 1300m with what I have left on the travel +6 mil (20moa) on the base. But from my experience at 1000m with Factory 175gr S&B Match.. the bullet will have long given up by then.

 

[finnbear270]

I just plucked the .308 example from the ether, to get an idea of what's going on with turret twiddling
Toying with the idea of a second 6.5 PRC in a T3 donor action.
Will fit the Bushnell Elite 21 power on a 20 m.o.a. rail.