Spot the difference - Scottish politics at its finest!

[long_range_rob]

Hmm. The sainted Lady FB used to have one of these high-security iPads and she tells me that they they were set up in such a way that they could not be used to provide a hotspot. Go figure….

Unless you’re the boss and the rules don’t apply to you

 

[Len the dog]

I don't believe for one moment his story about his sons watching the fitba, I think he was probably cracking one out to a bit of Frankie Vaughan, repeatedly.

 

[kes]

I watched The First Fiddler give an explanation to the Parliament and he acted as though he was affronted that he had to answer such questions or that the other chap had to be accountable.
Scotland as Wales is in dire straights - the Welsh cannot afford devolution but seek to distance themselves and act on the mandate given by 'the valleys'.
Scotland is heading downhill very swiftly and employers will start to abandon that particular ship. Agriculture, important if not vital to both economies and peoples in both devolved areas is being dismantled by Vegan policies and re-wilding. No one is to blame but the voters - just keep paying the income support or whatever its called today.

 

[kes]

I'm not a believer in resignations for errors or mistakes per se, but when you try to cover things up by lying when you are in a position of trust I just think your position is untenable.
I noted this statement and will remember it.

 

[Dunwaters]

So he gave his parliamentary iPad password to his children? Hope he doesn’t have a FAC as we all know the emphasis placed on the security of gun cabinet keys.

K

I doubt it, he switched it on and created a local hot spot for the kids to connect to.

 

[Foxyboy43]

I doubt it, he switched it on and created a local hot spot for the kids to connect to.

See #20 - according to hrh (who knows these things) the security protection prevents any such creation!

 

[lochty]

Begs the question....if he lied about this, what else has he lied about?

 

[willie_gunn]

See #20 - according to hrh (who knows these things) the security protection prevents any such creation!

You'd have certainly thought so, given that the iPad presumably contains data related to both Government and constituency business.

However he said that one of his teenage sons helped him set up hotspot - "My son – I had used a hotspot before – helped to facilitate that provision."

This was apparently because there were problems with his Parliamentary phone, so he was advised that he could use the hotspot on the iPad.

As has been said, his statement to the Parliament raised more questions than it has answered....

 

[slider]

Agreed, they used the hotspot.
But my understanding, based on his statement, is that one of the kids was given access to the laptop by the minister to set up the hotspot.

And if the minister didn't give permission for them to access the hotspot, it's still unauthorised access, is it not?

I think I implied that

 

[FISH BOY]

£11k bill for roaming charges to watch footie - WTF!

Don’t give a monkies who he is, that figure is ridiculous.

 

[Mickeydredd]

I'm not a believer in resignations for errors or mistakes per se, but when you try to cover things up by lying when you are in a position of trust I just think your position is untenable.
I noted this statement and will remember it.

You're welcome

 

[Donkey Basher]

The “kids did it“ defence will be very interesting if, heaven forfend, certain less than ahem, savoury, sites turn out to have been visited, accidentally of course …..

You mean like tractor porn!!

 

[willie_gunn]

You mean like tractor porn!!

Maybe he’s a member here on SD?? He was just checking in to see if he’d won the Supporters Draw

 

[nun_hunter]

I doubt it, he switched it on and created a local hot spot for the kids to connect to.

From his statement he said he didn't know how to do that so let his kids set it up "previously" and didn't realise it was still active. So he's let them into the iPad settings to activate the hotspot previously , something he shouldn't have done. He's then said it has remained active and that's how they have got online to watch the football, the hotspot will stop broadcasting so this is most likely a lie also. So he's either let them on again while on holiday or they knew the password to get on without his knowledge, either way he's then tried to cover it up and lie about it which is the issue.

 

[Dunwaters]

From his statement he said he didn't know how to do that so let his kids set it up "previously" and didn't realise it was still active. So he's let them into the iPad settings to activate the hotspot previously , something he shouldn't have done. He's then said it has remained active and that's how they have got online to watch the football, the hotspot will stop broadcasting so this is most likely a lie also. So he's either let them on again while on holiday or they knew the password to get on without his knowledge, either way he's then tried to cover it up and lie about it which is the issue.

With my hotspots, log in once and that’s it, the phone or tablet remembers the account and can log on again anytime.
As for the security implications, exactly what are they?
I very much doubt that any information of strategic importance was available.

 

[Len the dog]

With my hotspots, log in once and that’s it, the phone or tablet remembers the account and can log on again anytime.
As for the security implications, exactly what are they?
I very much doubt that any information of strategic importance was available.

If you want to join a hotspot then your device will remember the settings and join automatically, as long as it is configured to do that, but to broadcast a hotspot you have to manually switch it on prior to a device joining, if no device joins then it stops broadcasting until you next tell it to.
For his kids to join it, assuming that part of this tale is true, somebody had to access the device and switch the hotspot on.

 

[Dunwaters]

If you want to join a hotspot then your device will remember the settings and join automatically, as long as it is configured to do that, but to broadcast a hotspot you have to manually switch it on prior to a device joining, if no device joins then it stops broadcasting until you next tell it to.
For his kids to join it, assuming that part of this tale is true, somebody had to access the device and switch the hotspot on.

I must be doing something wrong then, because that’s definitely not what happens with my devices.

 

[Miki]

With my hotspots, log in once and that’s it, the phone or tablet remembers the account and can log on again anytime.

Think transmitting, not recieving ...

As for the security implications, exactly what are they?
I very much doubt that any information of strategic importance was available.

So, you are connected to a WiFi hotspot.
Open a CMD/DoS window ('terminal' on Apple ?)and type. NETSTAT
Press [ENTER]
A list will appear in the window showing you the IP address and names of all the connections that you PC/laptop has.
Type ARP -a [ENTER]
A list of devices you are connected too will appear.

Open a browser window and type in one of the IP addresses that are in both lists
Look for an IP that says "dns:https" next to it and try that.

Others that people often use are 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.0.254

Once you have the 'login' screen (of the transmitter/hotspot) you now need to find the password.
Once you are 'in', you can change the password and setup remote access.
Once you have remote access everytime that 'hotspot' or device is connected you can get in and now it's an open book.
Now you can implant keylogging software (so you can see what has been typed) + a whole host of other monitoring and mirroring services.
You can track and identify what other routers and servers the device is connected to by now and historically.
Once you know the internal LAN IP addresses of the servers etc, when trhe device is back on the LAN (ie back in St Andrews House/Holyrood etc, you can get into those devices too.
EMail address lists .....
Document edits ...
Spreadsheet locations ...

Your now search around the network looking for vunerabilities, depending on how good the IT security dept is and if they are looking for 'internal attacks' you could be on a winner .....

Heres a quick quide to the CLi on an Apple devoice (for those interested)

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[opticron1]

Sorry about the rant that started all this!
However, the fact that Humza Useless continues to have faith in someone who blatantly lied says more about his moral stance as well as his bestest pal Matheson.... We should have been warned about his ability to be a little choosy about the truth when he took over from Wee Jimmy Krankie and said he was "the continuity candidate" as her ability to "recall" things may be her undoing....
I continue to wait with great expectation for Matheson to fall on his sword!

 

[slider]

Bestest pals or not the brutal reality is the Silly Numptie Party can't afford to lose anymore MSP's via a bielections and so will stomach or hide anything they can