A freind of mine got me thinking the same last night keep the action as a rem mag he has a carbon wolf in 7mm rem mag and loves it its accurate too it would be handier for the licencing end of things too I went to look a a few guns in the local gun dealer last night and a tikka t3 light stainless fluted with the adjustable cheek piece caught my eye but for the price I could buy the action get a custom barrel and pse stock for very little more money. I don't know what to do.
7mm rem mag to 6.5 prc
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A freind of mine got me thinking the same last night keep the action as a rem mag he has a carbon wolf in 7mm rem mag and loves it its accurate too it would be handier for the licencing end of things too I went to look a a few guns in the local gun dealer last night and a tikka t3 light stainless fluted with the adjustable cheek piece caught my eye but for the price I could buy the action get a custom barrel and pse stock for very little more money. I don't know what to do.
Ronin
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Buy the rifle you like and that fits you as is
Or decide on the T3 and upgrade as and when budget allows
If the rem mag has a light profile barrel it will be “sharp” - if you are killing HG multiples then consider loss of target in scope during recoil cycle and re acquisition time ,,,,
The T3 is a very good action to build on as a base and not limited by being a “factory” when pitted against custom actions (to a degree)
Certainly equals any custom action for deer killing or steel plate comp type scenario
Most I’ve built on have only required limited work to make good and shoot exceptionally well (consistently well)
Or decide on the T3 and upgrade as and when budget allows
If the rem mag has a light profile barrel it will be “sharp” - if you are killing HG multiples then consider loss of target in scope during recoil cycle and re acquisition time ,,,,
The T3 is a very good action to build on as a base and not limited by being a “factory” when pitted against custom actions (to a degree)
Certainly equals any custom action for deer killing or steel plate comp type scenario
Most I’ve built on have only required limited work to make good and shoot exceptionally well (consistently well)
Nothing to do with the calibre used, everything to do with the rifle setup and shooter's ability.
Guys shooting 338 Lapua Magnum were keeping their sight picture at 500m (short range for that!), although rifle was around 10kg!
I doubt my stalking PRC weighs anywhere near that.although rifle was around 10kg! And therein lies your answer.
Lying down,prone using bags and bipods it's not a hard task
I'll have to agree I do you no what it is about the freinds carbonwolf if its the carbon soaks up the recoil or the set up or the moderator but you can see the spray of hair after hitting the deer
Anybody got a reamer though?
Ronin
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FTR as in F Class ?
If so then no one will be using a 7/6.5 PRC as the only two cartridges allowed are either 223 Rem or 308 Win
6pt-sika
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I have or have had far more rifles than most folks would need in several lifetimes . And yes I’ve done the 7 REM Mag yes I have had several 270’s a couple 6.5-06’s a 6.5 PRC and a 6.5mm Sherman Short Mag as well as a bunch of others . Anyway in PRACTICAL application on deer the 270 and the three 6.5’s mentioned are no different . Now with that being said the Sherman Short Mag outran the PRC I had by about 150 fps with max handloads shooting the same bullet , as to my present 6.5-06 and 270 they were right there with them BUT I was shooting 130’s in the 270 and 6.5-06 where as I was shooting 143’s in the other two . I no longer have the PRC but it was nothing against the rifle I just need to downsize if I ever wanna get moved to the Philippines and besides how many folks need close to two dozen rifles just for whitetail deer !
olliehopes
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Don't need to see the strike with a rem mag!
So no interest in precision then,Don't need to see the strike with a rem mag!
Loler UK
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Like Ronin said, the stock (and I'd argue the shooter) have allot more to do with that than the calibre.
I have a reasonably light carbon stock carbon barreled rem mag and can spot strokes no problem. And with the 100gr bullet load the felt recoil is not that much for most people
As for arguing that type of recoil management is required for accuracy I'd not be so sure either. There are plenty of disciplines where tiny groups strike is not observed due to recoil.
There is huge value in learning to shoot a light heavy recoiling rifle with a less than ideal stock design well.
There's allot of time money and effort to be saved in selecting a low recoiling calibre and/ or a well designed well fitted stock to help manage recoil and muzzle flip.
As the OP is considering moderate recoiling calibres and is used to the 7RM I don't think the difference between that and the prc or .270 will be particularly noticeable.
If he's got A load of brass& dies I'd say stick with the 7RM. 284/ an improved version is a great shout by Ronin, I'm always amazed they're not more popular as a stalking calibre.
I have a reasonably light carbon stock carbon barreled rem mag and can spot strokes no problem. And with the 100gr bullet load the felt recoil is not that much for most people
As for arguing that type of recoil management is required for accuracy I'd not be so sure either. There are plenty of disciplines where tiny groups strike is not observed due to recoil.
There is huge value in learning to shoot a light heavy recoiling rifle with a less than ideal stock design well.
There's allot of time money and effort to be saved in selecting a low recoiling calibre and/ or a well designed well fitted stock to help manage recoil and muzzle flip.
As the OP is considering moderate recoiling calibres and is used to the 7RM I don't think the difference between that and the prc or .270 will be particularly noticeable.
If he's got A load of brass& dies I'd say stick with the 7RM. 284/ an improved version is a great shout by Ronin, I'm always amazed they're not more popular as a stalking calibre.
As in F Open. Slack use off terminology on my behalf.
100g bullet through the RM? Lead free? I know with mine there's a good difference in felt recoil between loads. The 162g give a good sharp kick whereas the 130g yew tree just give a bit of a push. The PRC on the other hand gives a shove with the 140g.
I can spot strikes through the rem mag and the 130g along with the PRC off sticks.
One on top of two
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I have a sako 75 in 7mm RM and have been using Norma - 140gr Barnes TSX which are pretty civilised to shoot .
I also picked up 3 boxes of Nosler 150GR ballistic tip which are very punchy in fact there not very nice. They also do a ton of damage but they were cheep , they do make foxes disappear inside 150m though
But the 140 gn TSX barnes are just outstanding .
I also picked up 3 boxes of Nosler 150GR ballistic tip which are very punchy in fact there not very nice. They also do a ton of damage but they were cheep , they do make foxes disappear inside 150m though
But the 140 gn TSX barnes are just outstanding .
CBH Australia
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Ronin, how does the .284 compare against .280a.i. which is another SAAMI standardised cartridge?
Neither suit that Magnum bolt face he is considering though.
I have a .280a.i and needed the long action magazine in a Tikka so I started with a .25-06 but he could get others as donor's.
@RD88 mine is a .280a.i so a 7mm bore. It has a 26" C/f wrapped IBI barrel from Canada and it was a cheaper option here.
I looked into PSE stocks but would have had to order directly from the manufacturer. Almost did but I got an Australian made Precision Defence Industries an extension of Bolly Aviation.
Did you consider just putting the 7mmRm in a PSE stock to start ?
There are other Tikkas out there if you need the smaller bolt face. I just scan used adds when I want one until a good deal comes up .
Maybe see if the .284 or .280a.i. is available if you are not set on a specific thing.
I favour the 7mm bore but the 6.5prc would be good. I'm ok paying $4 to harvest a deer but if I'm just wanting to practice or cull pigs it gets expensive.
CBH Australia
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What's the price? If you are comparing to a custom then it seems overpriced.
A new one here is probably $1700, a good second hand Tikka can be found for $1000 and then if you strip it you have paid $1000 for an action,
Ive had a few good deals, makes it hard to part with stuff.
I still like the 7mm-08 that has lower recoil than .308 but less common. Probably equals a .270 or close enough but I've never had a .270.
I read up on 7prc and got keen thinking I could rebarrell the .300wm but I don't use them as much as I would like and chasing the latest cartridge would see me spending a heap on new cases, dies and other stuff.
I definitely think the PSE stock would save some weight but all CF stocks are pricey though I did like the look of theirs.
I have that many ideas in my head now I don't know what to do I never considered keeping the 7mm until someone on here mention it I thought it might be a bit too powerful. I don't reload or rather were not allowed to here in Ireland and from what I've seen and people are telling me the 6.5 prc factory ammo is more consistent and accurate than the 7mm rem mag I meself prefer accuracy over hitting the deer anywhere and killing it with power. Pse are based in Cork so only 2hrs drive from me and I really like there stocks the new evolution looks nice and I am eagerly awaiting them to start making them for the Tikka t3 it'd hard to know what to do then to throw a spanner into the works I was in a gunshop the other day and i seen a sako 75 finnlight in 270 for small enough money I had one years ago in 243 and was the sorriest thing I ever done was trade it in so I'm considering that now aswell.
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