National Police Chief Council - Firearms and Explosives Licensing Working Group minutes

[Liveonce]

These minutes are always worth a read, however none look to be published after July 2021, Why? BASC Conor can you explain why not? 10 year certificate gets a mentions a long with zeroing, alarms and more.

https://www.npcc.police.uk/SysSiteAssets/media/downloads/publications/meeting-minutes/firearms-and-explosives-licensing-working-group/2021/9-july-2021.pdf

And more listed

https://www.npcc.police.uk/search/?q=Firearms+and+Explosives+Licensing+Working+Group+minutes

 

[Donkey Basher]

@Conor O'Gorman

 

[The Singing Stalker]

Surely the question should be directed to npcc or your local mp rather than Basc?

 

[Selous]

Interesting, there appears to be concern regarding abuse of the zeroing clause and a proposal that all FAC holders have a burglar alarm fitted

 

[Stalker62]

...a proposal that all FAC holders have a burglar alarm fitted

Not an onerous precaution...

 

[Liveonce]

Surely the question should be directed to npcc or your local mp rather than Basc?

I did use the contact us on the NPCC but never got a reply, as BASC engage in the meeting I hoped he could help.

 

[Liveonce]

Interesting, there appears to be concern regarding abuse of the zeroing clause and a proposal that all FAC holders have a burglar alarm fitted

if you look back at other minutes they suggested zeroing is (from memory) 3 shots.

 

[Conor O'Gorman]

These minutes are always worth a read, however none look to be published after July 2021, Why? BASC Conor can you explain why not? 10 year certificate gets a mentions a long with zeroing, alarms and more.

https://www.npcc.police.uk/SysSiteAssets/media/downloads/publications/meeting-minutes/firearms-and-explosives-licensing-working-group/2021/9-july-2021.pdf

And more listed

https://www.npcc.police.uk/search/?q=Firearms+and+Explosives+Licensing+Working+Group+minutes

There was a further meeting in October 2021 (see download below) - and I vaguely recall a discussion on this forum about these minutes?

https://www.npcc.police.uk/SysSiteAssets/media/downloads/publications/meeting-minutes/firearms-and-explosives-licensing-working-group/2021/7-october-2021.pdf

I can't find any more meeting minutes after that - maybe no further meetings since then? I will look into it next week.

 

[doric_prince]

gets a mentions a long with zeroing, alarms

Minutes are pretty awful IMO, apart from using unprofessional language, such as “ok”! also for example, it states in a bullet format; “burglar alarms to be mandatory for firearms license holdersl.

Who has said this? Is this a statement or a question made during the meeting; not clear. however, it would appear at odds with Home Office guidelines that were published subsequent to date of the meeting in question (2021).

 

[mealiejimmy]

The abuse of the zeroing clause has been discussed here before.
My certificate, and I suspect everyone elses certificates says "zeroing and practice"
So, I zero with 3 shots to keep plod happy and then practice with a further 97 shots - simples

Cheers

Bruce

 

[long_range_rob]

Burglar alarm? Police forces do not attend burglar alarms these days so you might as well not bother.

 

[Liveonce]

Minutes are pretty awful IMO, apart from using unprofessional language, such as “ok”! also for example, it states in a bullet format; “burglar alarms to be mandatory for firearms license holdersl.

Who has said this? Is this a statement or a question made during the meeting; not clear. however, it would appear at odds with Home Office guidelines that were published subsequent to date of the meeting in question (2021).

indeed where they look to float their views be that policy of wishful thinking that they then try and move forward as policy they represent their Chief Constables at the meeting.

look back to pre implementation of the GP minutes as it was via this meeting it was driven forward, then you can see it is a then an us attitude.