Mauser Mod77 Stutzen šŸ’„ā€¦WARNING…the following post contains adult images of a full stocked rifle…if you are easily offended….scroll on šŸ«£šŸ˜‚

TheCornishman

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So just thought I would share my experience so far with the newest member of the cabinet line up. I’m a few months in & its not been plain sailing but I think we are there šŸ˜šŸ‘

I’ve always wanted a Stutzen rifle….ever since I was a boy I always thought they just look cool & admired their classy lines. I came close to buying one a few years back but jibbed as it was a 20ā€ barrelled .270. I always regretted not buying it, though my recent experience suggests it wasn’t a bad decision.

Now most stutzens that you come across seem to be Steyr or Ruger, even the odd BSA CF2 but mine is a Mauser mod 77. I’ve only ever seen 2x others. Another .243 & the .270 above.

I own a beautiful little Mauser 201 .22lr of a similar era & the 77 is a perfect stable
Mate. The 77 is the one gun in the cabinet that I have to pick up even when I am reaching in for something else..it handles quickly, feels great in hand & is just so pointable. I’ve other horses for different courses but the stutzen talks dirty to me šŸ˜‚





Rifle came with evidence of groups shot circa 1ā€ā€¦but….try as I might I really struggled to get the old girl to shoot. Tried a few different rounds & no consistency seemed attainable.

I dropped the action out of the stock to find a pressure pillar around 5ā€ back from the muzzle. It clearly wasn’t effective as the barrel passed the Ā£5note test and was floating. With a witness mark toward the muzzle I started conjuring all sorts of solutions in my head. The most elaborate involved milling out a channel
Inside the stock to insert a 4mm aluminium tube inserted inside an 8mm one and then fully glass bedding the rifle with a free float. This in theory would stiffen the stock & float the barrel at the same time. (May still try this one day šŸ¤”)

Before I got too stuck into it however I went with an easier option. A simple strip of self adhesive neoprene tape across the barrel Chanel and over the failed pressure pillar. The theory being that it should have a similar effect in calming down barrell harmonics whilst still allowing the barrel to oscillate when fired.

Off to the bonnet of the Landy, Bags & ammo in handā€¦šŸ’„šŸ’„šŸ’„ 1 1/4ā€ I can live with that…. Adjust & then 2rnds off of the @limulus sticks….holy ****…WTF has happened 🫣

Well between you and I I burnt through the best part of Ā£100 of ammo over a few sessions trying to work it out šŸ˜¬ā€¦making tweeks & retesting. I was still flummoxed & loosing what sanity remains so yesterday I headed to John & Jo at Duchy Gunsmiths.

Jo & I shot several different rounds from the bench bag at the obligatory 100yrds. 76g Geco to 100g Norma and whilst POI was different for each shooter we saw a rifle seemingly fairly unfussy about diet and shooting 1ā€-2ā€ groups all day. Not to bad for a 50yr old pre MOA guarantee thunderstick.

So Adjust…try off the sticks….& WTFšŸ«£ā€¦.ā€you try Joeā€ā€¦.🤯WTF….and there was the cause. So the stock is pushing the barrel right šŸ¤”ā€¦well No actually…we worked out another cause.

It turns out the stock wasn’t that big a deal at all…in fact it was muzzle flip off the sticks was causing the POI change & opening of groups.

The cure…well now I know that it does it I can prepare for it. I set the rifle on the sticks, and as I set the trigger and prepare for the shot I make sure I am gripping the sling and applying downward pressure with my left hand and focus on follow through. Target below is 75yrds. I adjusted 4clicks down & 2clicks right for a just sub 1ā€ group at 100yrds.

So simple fix….I shoot off of my sticks 95% of the time…that’s how I’ll be zeroing the stutzen & Im gonna have a great summer on the roebucks with it. The old girl is plenty capable, you just need to understand her subtleties beforehand. Sounds like my Landy šŸ¤”šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

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I wonder if more of us would have this problem if we didn't shoot with mods ?

I suppose a muzzle break would be nearly as criminal ? You could have one that channeled the air up to counter the recoil which may make it less hold sensitive ?

Or just enjoy as you are of course :) It's an absolute beauty!
 
I had a very similar problem with my drilling off 4-StableSticks. The solution ended up being not to use them with that rifle. I still don't completely understand the physics of it but I use the standard dual sticks with it now and it's just fine.


Lovely rifle though! What you need now is a matching .22 for the cheaper practice. There may be one in the classifieds if you're interested!
 
I really like The 77…I’ve not handled a 66 but that telescoping action doesn’t do it for me. I’ve tried a few straightpulls and find it rather off putting. 70s-80s Mausers are a class act though

Normally the straight pull isn't my thing either. But the 66 is a bit special it's telescopic. But a 77 would do just as well tbh!

Any thoughts on the muzzle break ? Or have you chosen not to even acknowledge my heresy šŸ˜€
 
There’s nothing wrong with a 20ā€ .270, had one for a long time and it would shoot a 2ā€ group with 5 different bullet weights from 5 different manufacturers at 100M.
It did kick like a bitch and light up the night sky, but you got used to it.
 
Normally the straight pull isn't my thing either. But the 66 is a bit special it's telescopic. But a 77 would do just as well tbh!

Any thoughts on the muzzle break ? Or have you chosen not to even acknowledge my heresy šŸ˜€
It’d be difficult to fit a brake on a stutzen without it projecting beyond the stock and while it would help with recoil it would knock your ears off.
 
So just thought I would share my experience so far with the newest member of the cabinet line up. I’m a few months in & its not been plain sailing but I think we are there šŸ˜šŸ‘

I’ve always wanted a Stutzen rifle….ever since I was a boy I always thought they just look cool & admired their classy lines. I came close to buying one a few years back but jibbed as it was a 20ā€ barrelled .270. I always regretted not buying it, though my recent experience suggests it wasn’t a bad decision.

Now most stutzens that you come across seem to be Steyr or Ruger, even the odd BSA CF2 but mine is a Mauser mod 77. I’ve only ever seen 2x others. Another .243 & the .270 above.

I own a beautiful little Mauser 201 .22lr of a similar era & the 77 is a perfect stable
Mate. The 77 is the one gun in the cabinet that I have to pick up even when I am reaching in for something else..it handles quickly, feels great in hand & is just so pointable. I’ve other horses for different courses but the stutzen talks dirty to me šŸ˜‚





Rifle came with evidence of groups shot circa 1ā€ā€¦but….try as I might I really struggled to get the old girl to shoot. Tried a few different rounds & no consistency seemed attainable.

I dropped the action out of the stock to find a pressure pillar around 5ā€ back from the muzzle. It clearly wasn’t effective as the barrel passed the Ā£5note test and was floating. With a witness mark toward the muzzle I started conjuring all sorts of solutions in my head. The most elaborate involved milling out a channel
Inside the stock to insert a 4mm aluminium tube inserted inside an 8mm one and then fully glass bedding the rifle with a free float. This in theory would stiffen the stock & float the barrel at the same time. (May still try this one day šŸ¤”)

Before I got too stuck into it however I went with an easier option. A simple strip of self adhesive neoprene tape across the barrel Chanel and over the failed pressure pillar. The theory being that it should have a similar effect in calming down barrell harmonics whilst still allowing the barrel to oscillate when fired.

Off to the bonnet of the Landy, Bags & ammo in handā€¦šŸ’„šŸ’„šŸ’„ 1 1/4ā€ I can live with that…. Adjust & then 2rnds off of the @limulus sticks….holy ****…WTF has happened 🫣

Well between you and I I burnt through the best part of Ā£100 of ammo over a few sessions trying to work it out šŸ˜¬ā€¦making tweeks & retesting. I was still flummoxed & loosing what sanity remains so yesterday I headed to John & Jo at Duchy Gunsmiths.

Jo & I shot several different rounds from the bench bag at the obligatory 100yrds. 76g Geco to 100g Norma and whilst POI was different for each shooter we saw a rifle seemingly fairly unfussy about diet and shooting 1ā€-2ā€ groups all day. Not to bad for a 50yr old pre MOA guarantee thunderstick.

So Adjust…try off the sticks….& WTFšŸ«£ā€¦.ā€you try Joeā€ā€¦.🤯WTF….and there was the cause. So the stock is pushing the barrel right šŸ¤”ā€¦well No actually…we worked out another cause.

It turns out the stock wasn’t that big a deal at all…in fact it was muzzle flip off the sticks was causing the POI change & opening of groups.

The cure…well now I know that it does it I can prepare for it. I set the rifle on the sticks, and as I set the trigger and prepare for the shot I make sure I am gripping the sling and applying downward pressure with my left hand and focus on follow through. Target below is 75yrds. I adjusted 4clicks down & 2clicks right for a just sub 1ā€ group at 100yrds.

So simple fix….I shoot off of my sticks 95% of the time…that’s how I’ll be zeroing the stutzen & Im gonna have a great summer on the roebucks with it. The old girl is plenty capable, you just need to understand her subtleties beforehand. Sounds like my Landy šŸ¤”šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

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Love a stutzen
 
Beautiful rifle - very jealous!
You could also try fixing a strap across your sticks - this also gives fine lateral adjustment and pretty much eliminates bounce.
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You can’t beat a Stutzen! I have two (22-250 and .308), and am looking at another!
Selling the .308 (Ruger M77) Stutzen (see sales section) as part of a bit of downsizing. One can only shoot so many rifles!
 
I had a very similar problem with my drilling off 4-StableSticks. The solution ended up being not to use them with that rifle. I still don't completely understand the physics of it but I use the standard dual sticks with it now and it's just fine.


Lovely rifle though! What you need now is a matching .22 for the cheaper practice. There may be one in the classifieds if you're interested!
Sneaky, sneaky….I see what you’ve done there šŸ˜‚šŸ‘
.22 Stutzen would be lovely but I’m at my quota for a wee while …I’ll look it up for a bump šŸ‘
 
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