Partners to be quizzed in new gun licence screening

[Dunwaters]

Here’s my summary gleaned from 9 pages of questions and answers.

There are some police forces trialling a new “ policy”.
This policy is without legal backing or precedent,
It is being implemented as a trial by a few police forces who will use the answers to some very ambivalent questions to determine your suitability to acquire or to retain your firearms in the future.

The policy may be universally adopted in the future or it may not.

Despite the fact that the practice is only being trialled and has no legal basis, refusal to participate by either yourself or your partner will result in your application or renewal being automatically rejected.

A couple of questions.

Do you believe that this new requirement going to provide a demonstrable increase public safety and can we please see the safety assessments and HAZID’s to back up the decision to introduce it?

If the new requirement is deemed to have a measurable effect on public safety, why is it not being introduced everywhere simultaneously.

How do you see the application of this “ policy “ affecting participation in shooting sports into the future?

Best of luck to you all in the future.

 

[GBR66]

Well she obviously cared about him enough to want to prevent that, divorce notwithstanding.

Maybe - he thinks it was a throwaway line and she was being vindictive - point is it doesn’t take much

 

[JTO]

Why is that relevant?

Because ethnic minorities are less likely to use a firearm to murder their spouse, perhaps?

 

[VSS]

Maybe - he thinks it was a throwaway line and she was being vindictive - point is it doesn’t take much

Not a situation that can be ignored, whatever.
He was clearly quite disturbed, or he wouldn't have said such a thing even as "a throwaway line", and the police acted correctly on the information, in my opinion.

 

[Dave_45]

The chap that introduced me to shooting is In his 60s now,his favourite line is , he will finish his living days able to shoot ,but he isn’t so sure my generation will be able to reach old age and still enjoy shooting hobbies.
I really don’t disagree ,but I’m going to enjoy it now .

His first certificate was a paper card saying something like authorised to possess guns.

 

[Bowland blades]

its all about covering there asses nothing else .they don't want you owning a gun of any sort really ,

Who doesn't want us to have firearms exactly ? TBF I cant see it being a big plan from police or government

 

[timbrayford]

The chap that introduced me to shooting is In his 60s now,his favourite line is , he will finish his living days able to shoot ,but he isn’t so sure my generation will be able to reach old age and still enjoy shooting hobbies.
I really don’t disagree ,but I’m going to enjoy it now .

His first certificate was a paper card saying something like authorised to possess guns.

That would be the original version of the SGC introduced in 1967, I got mine in 1973. The thing is a simple system liked that worked fine, but that was in the old days of village policemen, family doctors and close rural communities etc. so malcontents were easily spotted and applications for SGC refused.

 

[JTO]

The chap that introduced me to shooting is In his 60s now,his favourite line is , he will finish his living days able to shoot ,but he isn’t so sure my generation will be able to reach old age and still enjoy shooting hobbies.
I really don’t disagree ,but I’m going to enjoy it now .

His first certificate was a paper card saying something like authorised to possess guns.

Mine was a Gun License, bought from the Post Office, 10/-. If you bought a Game License, £3, you didn't need a Gun License.

 

[Jon P]

That would be the original version of the SGC introduced in 1967, I got mine in 1973. The thing is a simple system liked that worked fine, but that was in the old days of village policemen, family doctors and close rural communities etc. so malcontents were easily spotted and applications for SGC refused.

My first SGC was in 1988 that was a small white card with my name on it and a police stamp- I sure I still have it somewhere. They changed to the system we have now shortly after that.

 

[Jeff8861]

This has been going on for years its nothing new. It doesn't require any change in legislation so requires no legal requirements. As with all information intelligence the received data will be passed to the flm for decision. If the flm believes on the balance of probabilities that an offence has occurred or the info received is credible they may refuse or revoke. As usual if you believe the decision is incorrect or you have evidence to the contrary go to appeal or seek a meeting with flm. The form used has been in circulation for years and has simply been tweaked from the standard dv questions when officers deal with a dv related incident

 

[Mickeydredd]

Not a situation that can be ignored, whatever.
He was clearly quite disturbed, or he wouldn't have said such a thing even as "a throwaway line", and the police acted correctly on the information, in my opinion.

Using that rationale, the Tory donor who stated Diane Abbot should be shot should be charged with conspiracy to murder.

Throwaway remarks simply get blown out of all proportion in the current world we live in. The guy was clearly just exasperated with his situation when he said that the his soon-to-be ex wife

 

[Bowland blades]

My first SGC was in 1988 that was a small white card with my name on it and a police stamp- I sure I still have it somewhere. They changed to the system we have now shortly after that.

yeah and my Girlfriend used to pick up my shotgun shells without need of a licence from Bond & Bywater guns while she was at Preston poly. Deffo a keeper after about 40 years together

 

[Bowland blades]

That would be the original version of the SGC introduced in 1967, I got mine in 1973. The thing is a simple system liked that worked fine, but that was in the old days of village policemen, family doctors and close rural communities etc. so malcontents were easily spotted and applications for SGC refused.

No need to lock up shotguns, anyone could buy shotgun ammo and a white paper ticket without a photo on it

 

[Benelli m2]

This has been going on for years its nothing new. It doesn't require any change in legislation so requires no legal requirements. As with all information intelligence the received data will be passed to the flm for decision. If the flm believes on the balance of probabilities that an offence has occurred or the info received is credible they may refuse or revoke. As usual if you believe the decision is incorrect or you have evidence to the contrary go to appeal or seek a meeting with flm. The form used has been in circulation for years and has simply been tweaked from the standard dv questions when officers deal with a dv related incident

Not with TVP my Mrs have never been interviewed Not had a visit in years
Mind you I've held a certificate for 50 years

 

[Jeff8861]

Not with TVP my Mrs have never been interviewed Not had a visit in years
Mind you I've held a certificate for 50 years

If you haven't been involved in any dv then she won't. However if this trial is rolled out she will be contacted on you're next renewal.

 

[Tallguy]

Do we know which organisation drew up the questionnaire? Does anyone have a full copy of it they can post up? I live on my own and am single, will they ring my octogenarian Mother and quiz her in that case?

 

[Benelli m2]

If your in thames Valley area don't worry about it

 

[Trickyd66]

This is nothing new. I applied for s1 and s2 in 2020 and my wife was contacted as part of the application process as expected.

 

[Warren79]

they interviewed my wife for every renewal in the last 10 years - in fact they interviewed my parents who live next door last year!

 

[Bowland blades]

The last thing we need at the moment is another Nutter on a rampage ! look what has happened in the past when this has occurred ! Always its new tighter measures on what we the law abiding , sain shooters can do and posses . Of course it is going to occur again at some stage , just like drunk and drug driving still occurs . Should we except that ? Not in my opinion but it always come down to the authorities not dealing with a known problem in our rank. look at a few of the past cases ! The laws where enough its just nobody acted on the intelligence fed to them fast enough . All laws require on swift enforcement , Thinking making more laws will solve the sort of events we have seen in the past is only appeasement .
If the authorities haven't the funding for manpower , why the heck does someone like me in thier mid 50s who has been renewing since i turned 18 is renewing ever 5 years ? Even if they put renewals on ten years it would halve the workload for the extra labour time / costs. We all have medical markers and copper have the means to call up your details out in the field - with photo and a list of your firearms . If a home of a gun owner is being burgled that info is available to those sent to attend.