Treacle Trackpad
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Interesting reading on the 7mm08 seeing as I soon to be 'another 7mm-08 user'. What load are you using for your .5 moa, and what rifle? If you don't ming sharing of course 
what calibre would you reccommend for 1000 yard shooting? advice?
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flyingfisherman
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Where in NY are you T.T.. come and have a go with it if u want..
40gn H4895, Nosler brass, 140gn VLDs and seated to about 15 thou off the lands. It gives me 2770fps MV. Ive had some storming groups with this rifle, the best being this one.. 5 shots (because anything less isnt a group!
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I think it was about 0.25MOA. As i say, this load in my rifle is 0.5 MOA out to 600yds. Best shot so far was a 817yd rabbit
Oh, yes its a Stiller Predator in a McSwirly stock and 24'' LW stainless barrel, Jewell trigger and JetZ mod. Built by Steve Kershaw
40gn H4895, Nosler brass, 140gn VLDs and seated to about 15 thou off the lands. It gives me 2770fps MV. Ive had some storming groups with this rifle, the best being this one.. 5 shots (because anything less isnt a group!
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I think it was about 0.25MOA. As i say, this load in my rifle is 0.5 MOA out to 600yds. Best shot so far was a 817yd rabbit
Oh, yes its a Stiller Predator in a McSwirly stock and 24'' LW stainless barrel, Jewell trigger and JetZ mod. Built by Steve Kershaw
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The Yanks currently like the 7-08 using 162grn A-max's. This allows them to be used in a short action magazine fed rifle.
On a long action the .284 IS the go to calibre.
I would also consider any of the 6.5 calibres' that are in fashion. Currently I am tempted to go 6mm shooting a 115 DTAC's due to the chasis I have.
Or you can go big or go home.....
On a long action the .284 IS the go to calibre.
I would also consider any of the 6.5 calibres' that are in fashion. Currently I am tempted to go 6mm shooting a 115 DTAC's due to the chasis I have.
Or you can go big or go home.....
enfieldspares
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In my earlier years, well the mid 1990s actually, I used to shoot my 303 SMLE Mk III* at 800, 900 and 1000 yards at Bisley Camp.
As issued with standard barrel and standard sights. Not one of those "*******ised" A J Parker, Fulton or Alex Martin heavy barrel abominations with trick bedding and silly sights that masqueraded as service rifle!
Just used standard RG Mk VII load of a 174gns bullet at 2,450fps. So actually super-duper muzzle velocity with a heavy bullet isn't always the way to go.
I would also imagine that the German military load of a 198gns bullet at 2,340fps would be a real performer too.
As issued with standard barrel and standard sights. Not one of those "*******ised" A J Parker, Fulton or Alex Martin heavy barrel abominations with trick bedding and silly sights that masqueraded as service rifle!
Just used standard RG Mk VII load of a 174gns bullet at 2,450fps. So actually super-duper muzzle velocity with a heavy bullet isn't always the way to go.
I would also imagine that the German military load of a 198gns bullet at 2,340fps would be a real performer too.
flyingfisherman
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Hey spooksar.. buck the wind better than what?
ballistic hampster
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Hi Sean
It is me that shoots out a long way with a .22 B/R (3338fps)
so if you need any help pm me , have done FTR with my .308 as well
atb
It is me that shoots out a long way with a .22 B/R (3338fps)
so if you need any help pm me , have done FTR with my .308 as well
atb
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6.5-284 is arguably the best all round 1000yd target cartridge.
6.5 bullets target have the highest BCs of all barring the heaviest 7mms but in order to take advantage of these heavy 7mm bullets they have to be driven at magnum velocities to out shoot the 6.5-284, 7mm WSM and 7mm/270WSM being very popular at the moment.
The straight 284 is also a good 7mm but will not cut the mustard against the 6.5 version.
Ian.
6.5 bullets target have the highest BCs of all barring the heaviest 7mms but in order to take advantage of these heavy 7mm bullets they have to be driven at magnum velocities to out shoot the 6.5-284, 7mm WSM and 7mm/270WSM being very popular at the moment.
The straight 284 is also a good 7mm but will not cut the mustard against the 6.5 version.
Ian.
JabaliHunter
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7-300 WSM or 7 SAUM
swarovski
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swarovski
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a mate of mine had a trg in 338 lapua,was down on his ticket for deer and foxesIf you'd be allowed .338 lap mag on the place it would be wrong not to get one. It would also be a good boar gun...
Sorry taylor thats where you are wrong mate, the 284 Shehane might be one of the most accurate 1000yd cartridges but the crown goes to the 6mmBR and its variants.
What i was meaning to say is that the high BC 139 and 142grn 6.5 bullets out of the 284 case are ballistically superior to the 168 and 180 grn heavy bullets fired from the 284 case simply because of higher initial velocity.
Ian.
no one is shooting 6.5-284 in copetitive f-class these days they were a few years ago every one has moved on to the 7mm the usa shot the 6.5-284 at the last world champs and got beat by a big margin at 1000yds by the 7mms
now they have changed caliber since to the 7mm ,yes your right the 6mmbr is accurate but not at 1000yds in this country at 600yds yes the 6mmbr is good any gust of wind and your of the target
i shot the 6.5-284 for a while then moved to the 284 shehane so i know the 284 is miles better at 1000yds, out to 800yds the 6.5 is verry hard to beat but at 1000yds it gets wooped by 7mm
now they have changed caliber since to the 7mm ,yes your right the 6mmbr is accurate but not at 1000yds in this country at 600yds yes the 6mmbr is good any gust of wind and your of the target
i shot the 6.5-284 for a while then moved to the 284 shehane so i know the 284 is miles better at 1000yds, out to 800yds the 6.5 is verry hard to beat but at 1000yds it gets wooped by 7mm
I think Grant knows his ballistics better than most.
ballistic hampster
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Just had a new barrel 2,300 rounds down last .22b/r at 3338fps using a 75 amax ,
next barrel should do the same
as did the barrel before that ,
A 300 WIn Mag? You must enjoy recoil.
We shoot on Stickledown twice a year, for two days in April and two days in September, 12 hours of shooting each time. ('We' being Teesside Rifle & Pistol Club, of which I have the dubious honour of being Secretary. http://www.teessideshooters.org.uk) We shoot there for fun, not competing in anything. Our members use everything from a Winchester M70V .243 Win (badly affected by wind), Sako 75 Varmint in 6.5x55, .303 No 4s, 7.62 Parker-Hale 1200TX, Sako TRG in .308, Dragunov (uses same bullets as .303 No 4), and much else.
The most accurate rifles are without doubt two custom rifles built by Dave Folwell both chambered for 6.5x47 Lapua, an astonishingly accurate cartridge. Not big heavy guns but nonetheless, low recoil. But these rifles would shoot well regardless of the cartridge choice. Then there are the scoped TRGs and AIs. But not to forget the bog standard iron sighted Parker-Hale 1200TX which, in still air, shoots to 1.5 MOA at 1,000 yards Due to the gun's weight, recoil is acceptable even by smaller shooters. The load is nothing fancy: 168gr Hornady BTHP #30501 at an estimated 2700fps.
The point is this. You don't need a powder-gobblin' barrel-wearin' hard-kickin' sooper magnum to shoot accurately at 1,000 yards, even with side winds. Nor do you need an expensive custom rifle. But you do need something more than a 223.
-JMS
This guy seems to be having fun with his .223! Although I would be more concerned with his lack of care where a slamfire might go?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCJxQqkgGf0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCJxQqkgGf0
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Ronin
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Laurie has been using 223 for many years and with high BC bullets it is competative (to a degree)
The question was whats best for 1000 yd shooting.
Some have suggested 6mm BR / PPC - they both run out of steam at circa 600 yds.
At these distances you want high BC (above .6) bullets and velocity.
7mm's (284 Winchester, 284 Shehane, 7mm SAUM, 7mm WSM, 7mm/270 WSM, 7mm Boo Boo etc etc etc etc) provide the best catridge to launch these projectiles (at the moment) and to quantify this, one only has to look at which calibres are winning in F Class and Bench Rest at these distances.
7mm
Yes, there are better 1000 yd cartridges, if you have an understanding FEO and the range to use it, 338 LM, 375 Chey Tac, 416 Steyr, 408 Chey Tac, .50 BMG all spring to mind.
However, in the real world, 7mm offers the best all round accuracy per penny......
The question was whats best for 1000 yd shooting.
Some have suggested 6mm BR / PPC - they both run out of steam at circa 600 yds.
At these distances you want high BC (above .6) bullets and velocity.
7mm's (284 Winchester, 284 Shehane, 7mm SAUM, 7mm WSM, 7mm/270 WSM, 7mm Boo Boo etc etc etc etc) provide the best catridge to launch these projectiles (at the moment) and to quantify this, one only has to look at which calibres are winning in F Class and Bench Rest at these distances.
7mm
Yes, there are better 1000 yd cartridges, if you have an understanding FEO and the range to use it, 338 LM, 375 Chey Tac, 416 Steyr, 408 Chey Tac, .50 BMG all spring to mind.
However, in the real world, 7mm offers the best all round accuracy per penny......
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