'When' you mess up. Not 'if'

Having guided over many years on all the deer species in the UK, I have seen many people miss, ans occasionally wound deer. Not many wounded deer escape, either my dog tracks and its dispatched, or recently I took my rifle off the client and dispatched the deer after a stomp across a very muddy field in falling light at 150yds.

Any stalker that tells me they have never missed or wounded a deer is either a Liar, or they have done very little in the way of stalking. We all miss, and at times wound a deer. Putting the situation right is what counts.
Those that brag about how many deer they have shot and ranges taken, are usually some of the worse, and best to avoid in my opinion.
 
What I have yet to understand is that when I make mistakes like that, it’s always with someone with me. On my own, I have yet to have such spectacular failures as I do accompanied 😂
Absolutely true!!! This was one of the very, very few times I've had a guide with me. Between the miss, and the fact I'd taken my sticks apart and couldn't get them back together for ages he must've thought he was dealing with a complete halfwit 🙄😳

Still, he's confirmed my next stalk so I'm getting a second chance to prove otherwise 😆
 
As you squeeze the trigger all sorts of things go wrong. And with time and number of animals shot you realise how little you actually know.

In no particular order

1) Deer haven’t read the best practice guides. I have had several deer where nowt wrong with shot placement, bullet choice, bullet performance etc. the deer didn’t know what to do. I can think of a Roe buck shot at less than 50 that I though was a complete miss. It bounded off down the tramlines as if nothing had happened. I did follow up. No blood for 50 / 60 yards so called it a miss. Since the tramlines were going in direction I wanted to go carried on walking. Another 50 yards there was the buck stone dead. Bullet (140gn Softpoint 7mm) had smashed the heart to bits. Good exit hole as well. But plugged with bits of heart, hence no blood.

Can think of several other red deer that I have shot again after no reaction to first shot. Again they were dead on first shot, but just didn’t know it.

2) mis reading wind. It doesn’t blow from left to right or right to left. Wind swirls when its close to the ground. Trees, rocks, buildings and lee side of a hill all cause turbulence. Most windrifts are shown at 10mph. Thats not a lot of wind - a gentle rustling of leaves. 20 mph gently buffers your body. Wind can easily push a bullet a few inches off target irrespective of BC and cartridge

3) angle of presentation- the kill zone is not the 2D side on view you do your DSC1 shooting test on.

Instead imagine a grapefruit suspended between the front legs of the deer or antelope. This is bundle of top of heart, aorta and other blood vessels and nerves. A bullet through this and no vet will stabd a chance. This is your target and is what you shoot at. If you get this in your minds eye, you will then know how to shoot from any angle.

4) a second is a long time. A bullet covers 100 yards in little over 1/10 of a second. That is more than enough time for a deer to flinch / move. Bow hunters under stand this, and plenty of video showing that the instant reaction is for a deer to drop and arrow pass over. I am sure that I have seen deer flinch as I squeeze the trigger. Deer respond to movement- a muzzle flash, or even the bounce of a muzzle is probably enough to start the flight reaction. I have had a number of deer where shot has gone high or further back than I aimed for.

4) misjudging range - very easy to do even with range finders, especially if its s bit windy, rain, snow, fog etc. Not so much causing a miss, but follow up and foreshortening of the range, especially if shooting across a gulley or canyon. You start looking in place that is not where the animal was. You are looking around the thistle, but actually the thistle you should be looking around is 50 yards away.

5) shot deer are really quite small, don’t run in straight lines and gravity often takes over. It is easy to loose a red deer in a gutter under a heather bush only to find it several days later when the gutter is overflowing and there is a stink and lots of flies.

6) Gremlins and human ****uperry - it happens. For me, its thinking the deer is already on the table, and forgetting my technique and the bullet misses.

With experience you build all of the above into your decision making. As a guide, you should be expecting any of the above to happen and to factor this in.

Worst is a guide who pours scorn and derision on his client for making mistakes. If you are not confident of your clients skills, you should help him (females don’t make mistakes) improve and / or get the client into a position for an easy shot. If your client is holding you back from your cull targets or your other business, don’t take out a client or a guest.
 
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And we all have a 100% success rate. It’s very easy to provide good excuses for the mistakes, so that these mistakes don’t really count as a mistake.
 
Absolutely true!!! This was one of the very, very few times I've had a guide with me. Between the miss, and the fact I'd taken my sticks apart and couldn't get them back together for ages he must've thought he was dealing with a complete halfwit 🙄😳

Still, he's confirmed my next stalk so I'm getting a second chance to prove otherwise 😆
Not sure which sticks you have but I can vouch for the fact that Viper Travel sticks double up as a decent origami puzzle when it comes to reassembly the first couple of times
 
And we all have a 100% success rate. It’s very easy to provide good excuses for the mistakes, so that these mistakes don’t really count as a mistake.
I will admit that 100% of the mistakes are down to me...and they really p**s me off when I make them...but we are all human. I agree that there are only 2 types of people who shoot..those who miss and those who lie :). Its the way in which we deal with those mistakes to try and avoid any sort of suffering.
 
Not sure which sticks you have but I can vouch for the fact that Viper Travel sticks double up as a decent origami puzzle when it comes to reassembly the first couple of times
I have the 4Stable ones. For some reason I completely fumbled getting them put together. I only actually took them so they'd fit in the boot. Bloody sure they can stay in one piece from now on though 😳😆
 
I will admit that 100% of the mistakes are down to me...and they really p**s me off when I make them...but we are all human. I agree that there are only 2 types of people who shoot..those who miss and those who lie :). Its the way in which we deal with those mistakes to try and avoid any sort of suffering.
Yep. The difference at that range would have been minimal, so ahem…“other forces” were obviously at work.
That said how many of us really practice shooting on other than flat ground? On the Scottish Glens I have always found shooting downhill was the most uncomfortable position and totally unnatural to me - probably increasingly down to a change in my …. err….centre of gravity…
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I have the 4Stable ones. For some reason I completely fumbled getting them put together. I only actually took them so they'd fit in the boot. Bloody sure they can stay in one piece from now on though 😳😆
My 4 stable sticks have been numbered by me ,having gone stalking without.
They remained in the boot disassembled like drunken origami.
Trying to assemble by torch light became the krypton factor. My hands of 10 thumbs laughed at my incompetence 🤣🤣
 
It happens. Take it as a lesson and move on. A handy tip for shooting at angles that I was taught is to not look at the deer, but rather picture where the heart will be. When people ask me where I placed the shot I often can't answer, and sometimes I even struggle to picture how the deer was standing when I fired. All my brain can focus on is the heart and I generally hit it.

I say generally. I've messed up a few too. About one in a hundred resulting in a loss and maybe one in twenty where I think I could have done better but the deer has been recovered.
 
It happens to us all. As long as we learn from it maybe we are better equipped to not make the same mistake again (that not to say we can’t find an entirely new mistake to make)

Yesterday was my mistake day. Wonderful duck shoot with friends (we all served in the same military unit). End of day we had a last bird that dropped but needed a finishing shot. I was already on that side of the swamp, and had a gun and one cartridge in my pocket and proceeded to take care of it.

I missed - so needed to wade bag to my bag, dig out another shell, wade back over and use another shell.

Of course in hindsight sight, should have stuck a handful of cartridges in my pocket just in case
 
i.e. naff all, who, with a deer calibre zeroed at 100 yards would make any adjustment for a a deer at 114 yards? No one!
Absolutely nobody. You're right. I doubt that was the issue here, and I don't think that @Quixote has said it was.
But shooting down hill, his point of aim on the body of the deer should certainly have been higher than it would have been on the flat, in order to allow for the angle at which the bullet was passing through the animal.
 
I have a good friend who used to be paid to shoot 30,000 rounds of ammo a year at all sorts of ranges before going and lying in ditches in the Balkans. He is a superb marksman and instructor. Yet I have seen him miss a good Roe Buck and a Red Stag both at 100 odd metres. There was nowt wrong with the rifle.

He told me his grandfather had told him that one day he would forget all he had learnt. He thought his grandfather was talking rubbish. We were up in the highlands, and he had wanted to stalk in Scotland for many years. In his mind the deer were already on the wall when he squeezed the trigger. He went through a period of unexplained misses and it was all in his head. He now understood his grandfather.

I too went through a period of a few clean misses 18 months ago. Again I have had to force myself to back to basic skills and rebuild my confidence.
 
Absolutely nobody. You're right. I doubt that was the issue here, and I don't think that @Quixote has said it was.
But shooting down hill, his point of aim on the body of the deer should certainly have been higher than it would have been on the flat, in order to allow for the angle at which the bullet was passing through the animal.
I think a decent explanation of what might have occurred is given by an example above, the deer is a 3d target being shot at with 2d principles
 
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