Probably why he's not been on the forum since October last year
375H&H - Good reason and UK use?
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I do believe it was one of the many aliases of an individual since kicked off, but may be mistaken.Probably why he's not been on the forum since October last year
I am currently in the middle of a variation for a 375 H and H with Kent Police. It has been painful, a long drawn out process, but now I am close to it being approved. The problem is not Africa, it is zeroing it in this country. They have cut me down to 50 rounds to possess. By the way, any reloading components for it out there ?
Namman
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Much easier to carry a couple of thousand rounds of .22 ammo than a couple of boxes of 375. Pointless obstructivity.
You dont want to shoot more than 50 in a day, believe me.
There are big bore days at Bisley which cater for the usual.
.375 is regarded as distinctly mid-bore.
You just have to pay for the setup and so on and be a UK NRA member.
And if you shoot lighter bullets in the chambering you will be within muzzle energy limits. Check on NRA website before booking.
MAH
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I have a .378 weatherby .
The condition is target shooting at range in the NW..
I enjoy some big bore fun a few time a year.
If I wanted a trip to Africa, I'd need to amend the condition.
And in reality, IMHO, if you intend to hunt with a big bore calibre rifle, then putting some time in on the range is the right thing to do.
You might find the above an option for you.
M.
MAH
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To give good reason to acquire a large bore rifle for use abroad it is normal to have to provide evidence of a trip having been booked. If this is provided then there should not be a problem. I would also advise that owners of larger rifles either join a club where it can be used or have a piece of land nominated for zeroing and practice.
Otherwise totally ridiculous conditions are sometimes applied such as “The .375 bolt action rifle shall be carried only when proceeding to and from a port of embarkation. It shall not be fired in the United Kingdom.”….. This is a real condition from a real certificate recently issued. The matter has since been resolved with assistance from BASC.
Otherwise totally ridiculous conditions are sometimes applied such as “The .375 bolt action rifle shall be carried only when proceeding to and from a port of embarkation. It shall not be fired in the United Kingdom.”….. This is a real condition from a real certificate recently issued. The matter has since been resolved with assistance from BASC.
sikamalc
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Had mine over 35 years. Open ticket for any legal quarry in the UK, and I live in Kent. Plus load my own.
My last FEO, now retired, questioned why I had a 375HH on my last renewal. Even though I have owned the rifle for many years. He questioned that it was too big for deer stalking in the UK.
I pointed out to him that although there is a minimum calibre in the UK, there is NO maximum. And after my owning the rifle for so many years, why there should NOW be a problem?
He responded by saying to me that I was right, and that we shall leave as is
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He has since retired.
Some of them like to prove their worth I think.
My last FEO, now retired, questioned why I had a 375HH on my last renewal. Even though I have owned the rifle for many years. He questioned that it was too big for deer stalking in the UK.
I pointed out to him that although there is a minimum calibre in the UK, there is NO maximum. And after my owning the rifle for so many years, why there should NOW be a problem?
He responded by saying to me that I was right, and that we shall leave as is
.He has since retired.
Some of them like to prove their worth I think.
Anyone looking for good company
Regular short range practice in the UK
Opportunity to try a range of med and large bore rifles (folk are very generous)
I suggest joining the Short Range Heavy Bullet group at Bisley
Min calibre is 9.3 x 62
Regular short range practice in the UK
Opportunity to try a range of med and large bore rifles (folk are very generous)
I suggest joining the Short Range Heavy Bullet group at Bisley
Min calibre is 9.3 x 62
Hanechdene
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John,
Are you still thinking of having another one of your courses for DG?
Are you still thinking of having another one of your courses for DG?
Well, as this thread seems to have revived itself, I guess I can share my own experiences with the 375 I discussed in my OP in this thread.
Honestly, it was fine. No issues, no delays, no quibbles, I got what I wanted. No more hassle than my application for my 270 or my 44 lever gun. Credit to West Mercia there.
I applied for zeroing and competition use in the UK with a 'good reason' of running boar competitions at the range where I was a member. They were fine with that.
I asked for 100 round ammo allowance so I could reload batches of ammo. They gave me 160.
I specified that I wanted expanding ammo so I could practice with hunting loads ahead of driven boar or trips to Africa. No issues.
2 weeks to turn around the variation, a quick 10 min telephone conversation, job done. Low drama all around.
I didn't particularly want it conditioned for hunting in the UK as I had a perfectly good .270 for that, so I didn't ask for that condition. However, I'm pretty confident that I'd have got it if I wanted it.
Obviously your experience may vary depending on your local police force, but my experience is that getting these rifles, at least with WM, is not nearly as complicated as some people assume it is, or make it out to be.
If you want one, you have good reason and plans in mind to use one, then I say go for it. You'll likely have no issues.
Oh, and shout out to @bowji john 's safari course mentioned above. If you have an interest, even a passing one, in the whole safari thing, I can strongly recommend his course. It's a lot of fun, and I learnt a lot. Of course, it did lead to me getting my .375, so it wasn't 'cheap' per se, but good value nonetheless!
Honestly, it was fine. No issues, no delays, no quibbles, I got what I wanted. No more hassle than my application for my 270 or my 44 lever gun. Credit to West Mercia there.
I applied for zeroing and competition use in the UK with a 'good reason' of running boar competitions at the range where I was a member. They were fine with that.
I asked for 100 round ammo allowance so I could reload batches of ammo. They gave me 160.
I specified that I wanted expanding ammo so I could practice with hunting loads ahead of driven boar or trips to Africa. No issues.
2 weeks to turn around the variation, a quick 10 min telephone conversation, job done. Low drama all around.
I didn't particularly want it conditioned for hunting in the UK as I had a perfectly good .270 for that, so I didn't ask for that condition. However, I'm pretty confident that I'd have got it if I wanted it.
Obviously your experience may vary depending on your local police force, but my experience is that getting these rifles, at least with WM, is not nearly as complicated as some people assume it is, or make it out to be.
If you want one, you have good reason and plans in mind to use one, then I say go for it. You'll likely have no issues.
Oh, and shout out to @bowji john 's safari course mentioned above. If you have an interest, even a passing one, in the whole safari thing, I can strongly recommend his course. It's a lot of fun, and I learnt a lot. Of course, it did lead to me getting my .375, so it wasn't 'cheap' per se, but good value nonetheless!
How many miles was not 'as far' #askingforafriend
Loki
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Hi All
As per my own shinnanigans with TVP Service, such 'thinking' must be challenged, even if it means a formal complaint (as I had to).
To my thinking just taking a heavy calibre abroad after dangerous game and a few check-zero shots, in my opinion, is unlikely to be a good idea for most, without some use under 'field conditions', in the UK.
If you are safe to hold firearms, and in particular if you have had an 'open certificate' for several/many years to demonstrate competance and safety, there is no 'too heavy a calibre/High Muzzle Energy' (in TVP's mind)' nonsense to be taken let alone discussed (if they be willing).
L
As per my own shinnanigans with TVP Service, such 'thinking' must be challenged, even if it means a formal complaint (as I had to).
To my thinking just taking a heavy calibre abroad after dangerous game and a few check-zero shots, in my opinion, is unlikely to be a good idea for most, without some use under 'field conditions', in the UK.
If you are safe to hold firearms, and in particular if you have had an 'open certificate' for several/many years to demonstrate competance and safety, there is no 'too heavy a calibre/High Muzzle Energy' (in TVP's mind)' nonsense to be taken let alone discussed (if they be willing).
L
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