Vacancy: Volunteer humane animal dispatcher

[nun_hunter]

Having experience of this it's not the deer that are hard work but the members of public who are involved or who make sure they get involved.

As a volunteer it's not worth the grief and risk to me.

 

[bullet chucker]

After you have volunteered, how long will your certificates take to be up dated to the NEW' conditions on it? Answers on a second class envelope.

BC.

 

[ndjfb00]

Thx

Surly in times when FAC is being tightened up any extra ticks in boxes would help justify the FAC you hold. There is as well the animal welfare side, dog food… and a potential to build bridges with land owners…. I am a fair distance from TVP but I would seriously consider doing it if I was in that area to build a reputation as being one of the “good guys” rather than a “gun toting red neck” as many of the public and uniformed lot see us.

Thx a good well measured comment!

 

[ndjfb00]

After you have volunteered, how long will your certificates take to be up dated to the NEW' conditions on it? Answers on a second class envelope.

BC.

Hopefully one of the new HAD's can answer that

 

[GBR66]

Who is going to do that unless expenses are provided at least.

When in Wiltshire I knew a man who did this for the good of the deer and as he was a keen stalker.....I think a call out fee of what...£50-100 might be fair but I think he viewed it like any other public search people do like the Parish Council, etc.

 

[cookingfat]

Having experience of this it's not the deer that are hard work but the members of public who are involved or who make sure they get involved.

As a volunteer it's not worth the grief and risk to me.

Not what county you are but this doesn't happen in my county as there's always a police unit at every scene and if a member of the public is a problem the HAD just asked for that person to be removed and the police will do that so you can get on with your job.
In the scenario training each new HAD receives this type of incident is trained for along with others.

 

[Klenchblaize]

The one thing that interests me is that of response times:

So, your phone pings at 02:15hrs with a request to attend a deer RTC. Assuming one has to get out of bed and ditch the jim-jams; grab a suitable firearm & ammunition from a locked cabinet before setting forth on a c20-mile road trip to the incident in question - but not before filling up with diesel because the LR's tank is low - how long will the Police stand around twiddling their truncheons before adopting some other approach to the challenge at hand?

And then there's the potential 'embarrassment' of having to decline a call-out/summons as you've partaken of a couple of beers at a friend's wedding or funeral.

 K

 

[ndjfb00]

The one thing that interests me is that of response times:

So, your phone pings at 02:15hrs with a request to attend a deer RTC. Assuming one has to get out of bed and ditch the jim-jams; grab a suitable firearm & ammunition from a locked cabinet before setting forth on a c20-mile road trip to the incident in question - but not before filling up with diesel because the LR's tank is low - how long will the Police stand around twiddling their truncheons before adopting some other approach to the challenge at hand?

And then there's the potential 'embarrassment' of having to decline a call-out/summons as you've partaken of a couple of beers at a friend's wedding or funeral.

 K

It's all catered for in my scheme, taking your points as they are written, you elect what times you want to be on call and the radius you are prepared to drive.

I have an 'easy' access gun cab in the house with just HAD guns in it. I don't fanny around doing up laces, I use slip on dealer boots on a call., the laces thing takes as long to get dressed! Wouldn't dream of only having enough fuel for a few miles, it's always full.

Police will wait if they know you are en route because the ARV alertnative coukd be a very much longer wait and steeped in process (permission to fire) which can take as long again.

Re the social side - it's your call how you run your social life but I've broken off events if I'm local to pop back home and get my gear.

In summary - it's all very do'able

 

[nun_hunter]

It's all catered for in my scheme, taking your points as they are written, you elect what times you want to be on call and the radius you are prepared to drive.

I have an 'easy' access gun cab in the house with just HAD guns in it. I don't fanny around doing up laces, I use slip on dealer boots on a call., the laces thing takes as long to get dressed! Wouldn't dream of only having enough fuel for a few miles, it's always full.

Police will wait if they know you are en route because the ARV alertnative coukd be a very much longer wait and steeped in process (permission to fire) which can take as long again.

Re the social side - it's your call how you run your social life but I've broken off events if I'm local to pop back home and get my gear.

In summary - it's all very do'able

In Sussex if there isn't a deer warden available then an ARV will be dispatched unless they are all on live jobs already which is extremely rare. The authority to use their firearms will be given with pretty much immediate effect once on scene and confirmed the deer is alive and in need of dispatching.

The decision to shoot and how to go about it lies with the officer on scene (as it does with the deer warden) depending on each specific circumstances so takes as long as needed to be sure of a safe and humane shot.

Driving on blues means an ARV can be there often much quicker than a deer warden but the risk of driving on blues is one that's best avoided unless absolutely necessary.

 

[cookingfat]

In Sussex if there isn't a deer warden available then an ARV will be dispatched unless they are all on live jobs already which is extremely rare. The authority to use their firearms will be given with pretty much immediate effect once on scene and confirmed the deer is alive and in need of dispatching.

The decision to shoot and how to go about it lies with the officer on scene (as it does with the deer warden) depending on each specific circumstances so takes as long as needed to be sure of a safe and humane shot.

Driving on blues means an ARV can be there often much quicker than a deer warden but the risk of driving on blues is one that's best avoided unless absolutely necessary.

Sounds like your ARV units work the same as they do in Hampshire.

AR offices will the gap's when the control room can't get a HAD.

Hampshire has a good covering of HAD's now who in many cases are within 7 miles of the incident so the waiting time is cut to a minimum.

 

[dryan]

Sounds like your ARV units work the same as they do in Hampshire.

AR offices will the gap's when the control room can't get a HAD.

Hampshire has a good covering of HAD's now who in many cases are within 7 miles of the incident so the waiting time is cut to a minimum.

Over here a vet is called to dispatch via lethal injection. The issue for the police is that they have to stay with the carcass until the local
Council collects it as it’s classed as hazardous waste once the injections in it. The council only work 8-6…

 

[spanj]

Over here a vet is called to dispatch via lethal injection. The issue for the police is that they have to stay with the carcass until the local
Council collects it as it’s classed as hazardous waste once the injections in it. The council only work 8-6…

Madness. Make the rspca aware

 

[8x57]

Over here a vet is called to dispatch via lethal injection. The issue for the police is that they have to stay with the carcass until the local
Council collects it as it’s classed as hazardous waste once the injections in it. The council only work 8-6…

Understandable, but crazy that the police tolerate that situation and haven't put simple measures in place to resolve that issue.
Just shows the benefit of dispatching with a firearm or knife.

 

[weblyish]

Over here a vet is called to dispatch via lethal injection. The issue for the police is that they have to stay with the carcass until the local
Council collects it as it’s classed as hazardous waste once the injections in it. The council only work 8-6…

How does a vet approach a writhing antlered beast? Seems like nonsense and a recipe for disaster
.410 from a couple of feet away seems much more sensible

 

[ndjfb00]

How does a vet approach a writhing antlered beast? Seems like nonsense and a recipe for disaster
.410 from a couple of feet away seems much more sensible

I bet if you took a poll on here the preferred tool of choice for HAD, the 410 would win (probably) I've certainly not had any issues on using it but I do know it's limitations

 

[cookingfat]

I bet if you took a poll on here the preferred tool of choice for HAD, the 410 would win (probably) I've certainly not had any issues on using it but I do know it's limitations

Not sure about preferred tool, I think if you only took a 410 to every job you might come unstuck!
12g with a selection of cartridges will do it 99% of the time.
you can't over kill something.
I always take a 410 along with others

 

[ndjfb00]

Not sure about preferred tool, I think if you only took a 410 to every job you might come unstuck!
12g with a selection of cartridges will do it 99% of the time.
you can't over kill something.
I always take a 410 along with others

We only have small deer

 

[cookingfat]

Thames Valley Police are now looking for new HAD members.
So if you fit the criteria and won’t to give something back to the sport we all love then scan the QR and get involved with this worthwhile volunteer work.

 

[bobo]

Don’t your fire and rescue vehicles carry firearms?
When a neighboring farm was on fire, some pigs were caught inside the stable, but each firetruck carried an old Mauser 98K, so the pigs were shot through the flames, before they burned.
Also heard they did the same when a transport of live pigs had an accident where it tipped over on the motorway a few years back.
I would think most fire trucks operating outside of major cities around Europe carry some form of firearm for these kinds of cases.

For single traffic wounded or otherwise wounded animals (including bad shots from stalkers) here the “Sweiss-registered” volunteers take care of them, and find them with trained dogs if neccesary. Its volunteer how much we pay them, but minimum “petrol money”, when we stalkers call them for a wounded animal, we usually give them a decent pay. Don’t know how much the police pay them if they call them out to something. They use their normal registered rifles or shotguns for the job, whatever they prefer.

 

[8x57]

Don’t your fire and rescue vehicles carry firearms?
When a neighboring farm was on fire, some pigs were caught inside the stable, but each firetruck carried an old Mauser 98K, so the pigs were shot through the flames, before they burned.
Also heard they did the same when a transport of live pigs had an accident where it tipped over on the motorway a few years back.
I would think most fire trucks operating outside of major cities around Europe carry some form of firearm for these kinds of cases.

For single traffic wounded or otherwise wounded animals (including bad shots from stalkers) here the “Sweiss-registered” volunteers take care of them, and find them with trained dogs if neccesary. Its volunteer how much we pay them, but minimum “petrol money”, when we stalkers call them for a wounded animal, we usually give them a decent pay. Don’t know how much the police pay them if they call them out to something. They use their normal registered rifles or shotguns for the job, whatever they prefer.

No they don't. The very thought of it would send the Chief Fire Officers into apoplexy. Fire and Rescue services in the U.K. have become woke to the extreme.

I remember a fire in a local pig rearing unit back in the early 80s where dozens of pigs were burnt and suffering, they were dispatched by the farm manager using a lump hammer. It seemed pretty brutal at the time but he didn't have access to firearms as it was a prison farm.
I don't know if it has changed but it was not uncommon to wait a considerable amount of time for a vet or the RSPCA to attend any incident involving animals.

Incidentally I have read scientific reports from some Scandinavian countries advocating the use of rifles (minimum of 9mm recommended) for venting acetylene cylinders involved in fire from a safe distance. I'm not sure if this practise was ever adopted but perhaps this would have been another reason for carrying the rifles? Here we continue to stand back when a cylinder is involved and cordon off the area (100 or 200 yard exclusion zone) for 24hours.