Ban on lead shot what about old guns

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triggertrix said:
www.fwi.co.uk

Lead shot contamination in milling wheat ‘disappointing’ - Farmers Weekly

Flour millers have been left disappointed after finding lead shot contamination in milling wheat in cereal grains at intake. Trade association UK Flour
www.fwi.co.uk www.fwi.co.uk
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On reading that article it appears that the lead contamination happens more often because of shooting over stored wheat, as in indoor pest control, not in the field. Edit (As pointed out in post 68).
There is plenty of research into plant uptake of lead however.
Actually, we're all living longer, at great expense to the pension system and the NHS, so frankly I'm surprised that the government is so concerned that we are all poisoning ourselves. You'd have thought they would be encouraging people to an early grave.
 
AGR said:
On reading that article it appears that the lead contamination happens more often because of shooting over stored wheat, as in indoor pest control, not in the field. Edit (As pointed out in post 68).
There is plenty of research into plant uptake of lead however.
Actually, we're all living longer, at great expense to the pension system and the NHS, so frankly I'm surprised that the government is so concerned that we are all poisoning ourselves. You'd have thought they would be encouraging people to an early grave.
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True, however there are many crops that will hold lead in the leaves and stems, brassicas for example,
 
AGR said:
On reading that article it appears that the lead contamination happens more often because of shooting over stored wheat, as in indoor pest control, not in the field. Edit (As pointed out in post 68).
There is plenty of research into plant uptake of lead however.
Actually, we're all living longer, at great expense to the pension system and the NHS, so frankly I'm surprised that the government is so concerned that we are all poisoning ourselves. You'd have thought they would be encouraging people to an early grave.
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I'll say for one I am far more concerned about what's in the store bought procesed foods than I am of potential bits of lead traces in crops lol
 
AGR said:
On reading that article it appears that the lead contamination happens more often because of shooting over stored wheat, as in indoor pest control, not in the field. Edit (As pointed out in post 68).
There is plenty of research into plant uptake of lead however.
Actually, we're all living longer, at great expense to the pension system and the NHS, so frankly I'm surprised that the government is so concerned that we are all poisoning ourselves. You'd have thought they would be encouraging people to an early grave.
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Na, that's what the virologists are for. Much quicker than lead.
 
triggertrix said:
Just scattered some small gravel on mine in the kitchen garden to test, and yes, plenty sits well in the leaves and stems joints.

I think it’s documented elsewhere, I’ll have a look..
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Tesco did ban a shoot near me because of the risk of shot lodging in their contract grown cauliflowers, but that meant all kinds of shot, lead, steel or whatever.
 
grandad of the woods said:
So was talking to my dad and we were discussing my grandad's old Spanish side by sides (not profed for steel shot)
My question is so onces leas has banned I'll assume that means these guns can no longer be used ??? Or is there an exemption for old shotguns and if so does that mean cert makers will still produce lead shot certs
Or is it a matter of the lead being banned will force gun owners on lead only shotguns to have no choice to have the deactivated or destroyed ???

IV not seen anything written about this in any of the ban information on what happens to older guns
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Is it nitro proofed?
 
grandad of the woods said:
All I know is in my hatsan semi auto the full shoke says lead shot only and then this makes this choke completely redundant when lead being banned
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Steel shells generally pattern tighter due to the facts they don't crush and the wad is tougher thus the reason for full choke being for lead only not steel is to mitigate against choke swelling.
With interchangeable chokes you can use steel albeit 2 sizes larger. There is a crossover point between pattern/pellet efficiency/load which has to be learnt.
I went through all this with my magnum proofed 3" Laurona decades ago and there comes a point, where instead of firing say under 2 dozen win xxx magnums in a season, you do have to be careful with your steel loads that every day doesn't become a win xxx day...in the end I gave up and bought a berretta xtrma 1 and all my worries went away. I've stuck with SA's since and now only have the two, one Benelli 3" the other a Franchi 3.5" both of which are 1370 proof one 73/4 lbs the other 6lb both 12s...
 
Spartina said:
Steel shells generally pattern tighter due to the facts they don't crush and the wad is tougher thus the reason for full choke being for lead only not steel is to mitigate against choke swelling.
With interchangeable chokes you can use steel albeit 2 sizes larger. There is a crossover point between pattern/pellet efficiency/load which has to be learnt.
I went through all this with my magnum proofed 3" Laurona decades ago and there comes a point, where instead of firing say under 2 dozen win xxx magnums in a season, you do have to be careful with your steel loads that every day doesn't become a win xxx day...in the end I gave up and bought a berretta xtrma 1 and all my worries went away. I've stuck with SA's since and now only have the two, one Benelli 3" the other a Franchi 3.5" both of which are 1370 proof one 73/4 lbs the other 6lb both 12s...
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hope those wads are biodegradable 😂

and your 1370 proof is actually 1320 under CIP.
 
Liveonce said:
hope those wads are biodegradable 😂

and your 1370 proof is actually 1320 under CIP.
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P25 of the manual.
"All Affinity shotguns are subjected to a 1370bar burst test at the Italian National Proof House in Gardone Val Trompia (Brescia - Italy),according to C.I.P. (Commissione Internazionale Permanente - Permanent International Commission) regulations. Affinity shotguns can use all cartridges in the gauge indicated on the firearm, in compliance with the C.I.P. (Commissione Internazionale Permanente - Permanent International Commission) regulations."

I quote from the Franchi manufacturers information.

The same with the Hull "imperial" carts post above.

Hydrowad

  • 100% plastic free, non-toxic and will degrade in a field over a period of time.
  • Biodegradable cup wad maintains tight patterns and aids barrel protection for use with steel shot
  • On a hot peg, Hydrowad leaves no residue in the barrels.

https://www.franchiusa.com/sites/de...ls/2020-08/affinity_intensity_manual_2013.pdf

Give your head a good shake.
 
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