Its a change in demografy, 1.5 child/women are not enough to get the same number of young people. 10 years ago well educated young adults had difficult to fing work here in the north of Sweden now anyone normal enough get a well payed work, immigrant workers can find both low payed caretaker jobs and high payed engineer work.
An American perspective.
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Are you in the same Eire as Dunwater ?
True, in Eire you...Who is this "We" in Eire the guide has to carry the rifle for an overseas guest...
"people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones"
In Ireland, a guest or any other individual cannot carry a rifle without a valid Irish firearms certificate for that specific weapon. It is a criminal offence to possess or use a firearm without this documentation, even on private property.
"Pat there is a Stag pass me the rifle" "too late it has gone"
Here my overseas guest pay the temp cost and use the rifles to my conditions for the length of the trip
Having just watched the footage you posted. By the looks of it Paul Childerly shouldn’t have been using a rifle at all after they stated his paperwork wasn’t processed in time. I am making the presumption that the paperwork that allows any visitor is the same paperwork that allows the import of the rifle to actually use.
Some one is wrong and I know where my money is currently going.
I will also note that just like fishing spots, there is still secrecy in sharing ground/permission. This being for various reasons. If you don’t know someone already it’s a difficult task starting out.
I have one daughter who shows interest in hunting. The other two are non plussed. But time will tell. It will be good when I can get back out as it’s been three years since my accident with very sparse stalking due to disability. Hopefully then their interest will reignite.
The comments about universities interest me.
It is 20 years since I left agricultural college and I can only think of a single vegetarian there, however it really struck me how many of my friends from home refused to have anything to do with fieldsports after attending university despite being involved for their whole lives up to that point. I have a good friend who is a keeper and has not spoken to his children in years due to his refusal to give up his career. His care and interest in wildlife is blindingly obvious to me but seemingly not to his children. I expect he will bend to their will soon.
I also know of a lot of farmers children who are now vegan, some of whom are also very involved with the family farm. It was amazing how their views changed.
The other thing I have noticed is how many friends have given up because their wife (or husband in one unfortunate girl’s case) doesn’t approve. That then breaks the link for the future.
Being honest, I remember when I was about 10, getting very upset with my father and uncle for shooting, after a teacher I thought a lot of told me how bad it was. We even sang a song about the evils of shooting, hunting and fishing in primary school. It amuses me to him it to myself when in the pigeon hide now…
It is 20 years since I left agricultural college and I can only think of a single vegetarian there, however it really struck me how many of my friends from home refused to have anything to do with fieldsports after attending university despite being involved for their whole lives up to that point. I have a good friend who is a keeper and has not spoken to his children in years due to his refusal to give up his career. His care and interest in wildlife is blindingly obvious to me but seemingly not to his children. I expect he will bend to their will soon.
I also know of a lot of farmers children who are now vegan, some of whom are also very involved with the family farm. It was amazing how their views changed.
The other thing I have noticed is how many friends have given up because their wife (or husband in one unfortunate girl’s case) doesn’t approve. That then breaks the link for the future.
Being honest, I remember when I was about 10, getting very upset with my father and uncle for shooting, after a teacher I thought a lot of told me how bad it was. We even sang a song about the evils of shooting, hunting and fishing in primary school. It amuses me to him it to myself when in the pigeon hide now…
I think some teachers and lecturers have a lot to answer for. I remember being repeatedly lectured on the various evils of farming, the monarchy, capitalism etc by several teachers but also a very kindly teacher who was from Argyll and gave us a fascinating talk on grouse moors.
I think a one hour talk we had from the BDS did more good than anything else. That really had an impact on a lot of us.
I think a one hour talk we had from the BDS did more good than anything else. That really had an impact on a lot of us.
Shotguns may be tried in the presence of an RFD or rep / employee. This is being interpreted as allowing a form of daily hire on one driven pheasant shoot. Perhaps Paul Childerly's host was in a similar position. At the time that I watched that episode I couldn't believe my ears when I heard that comment about carrying the rifle. Incidentally I'm fairly certain that that clip was aired on a previous occasion. Final thought is that there is quite simply an unintended loophole in the legislation which is being exploited in a manner that wasn't intended.
Anything over .22/250 was illegal for 20+ years from the early '70's - Police took them in and didn't allow them back out. There is some history, current regime is tight but practical.
I'm not following your point. Can you elaborate?
About year 1350 they banned taking weapons to church in Sweden. Too many dead by fighting on the way to and from church.
After the military introduction of the model 1867 rolling block, the government decided to promote civilian shooting so rifle and pistol shooting organisations are still going.
Dunwaters
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Our history is littered with armed insurrections, mostly against the British but there have been challenges to our own government too. The government reaction to this has been to clamp down on firearms access. Penalties are severe because they are aimed at insurrectionists threatening the state or organised criminals.
In 1972 all rifles in excess of .22 caliber and all pistols were confiscated and placed in government storage. The law allowed this to be done for 30 days and the period could then be renewed for a further 30 days. At that time our firearms licences were renewed annually on 1Aug, during the custody period the certs lapsed and renewals were subsequently refused.
The firearms remained in storage for 20 years, despite 2 high court rulings.
The IRA were extremely active for most of the period, and this was used as justification.
The threat to the security of the state was credible, the IRA was a paramilitary organisation that funded itself through bank robberies kidnappings and extortion
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Which older people dont pay - you must be kidding !!!!! The only thing we are less LIKELY to pay is a mortgage and their time will come for those who have them
I get that and believe me I wish we’d weren’t so restricted but on the flip side no tags here so if you have permission can go stalking as much as you want
Have you heard about the Fenian wars? Irish american attacs on Canadian farmers as being the closest British citisens then Ireland and Britain were in war. It led to setting up local Canadian militias separate from British army and were instrumental then Canada became a national state. Strangely US government let their citizens attack an other nation they were in peace with.
It isnt but then freedom is an illusion (cant recall who originally stated that). You pay a hell of a price in lost lives for your right to bear arms. Neither the UK or the US has it right IMO
You should (as I guess a reloader) read the strict regulations on reloading in Eire
From what I read there are more hoops to jump through than that box of popcorn in the above clip. The men in black ski masks have left their mark with the result of adding to the restrictions on reloading in Eire.I am happy to discuss this with you at greater length but quite simply you are massively out of touch with the realities of life and the tax system.
I'll add an example. The house my parents bought when I was a toddler recently sold. It's in Outer London and cost about 2.5 to.es the average wage when he bought it. When Dad bought it, no SDLT was payable, now has a tax bill of over £400,000 assuming rather spuriously that the owner didn't own anything else, otherwise over £700,000. That is a massive tax which wasn't paid by the previous generation and we're not talking about palaces.
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Martiniblack577
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So, if a university is a place where normal conventions/ideas/thoughts can be challenged/ embraced/discarded in the name of higher learning and progress, to cancel a minority’s position on a multitude of themes would be seen as discrimination? Now, clearly the other problem here is ‘norms’ change over the centuries. I do wonder what Rome was like back in the day for anyone who protested against gladiators killing each other and demanding it stopped!
Martiniblack577
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You should (as I guess a reloader) read the strict regulations on reloading in Eire
Have pals who moved to NI (yep not Eire) due to concerns over losing their hobby by remaining here. Seems extreme but they have no regrets.
Massively out of touch, if only you knew. I’ll leave you to patronise others with your single example
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