Firearms certificate

[MarkL]

Firearms certificate currently has .22, 65x55 and .308 on it
Recently sold my 6.5 x 55, if I want to purchase another one do I have to reapply to the firearms officer or does the slot become vacant once I’ve sold the rifle ?
Had conflicting info some say have to apply for a 1 for 1 variation others said yes I now have a vacant slot

 

[Mike1979]

Firearms certificate currently has .22, 65x55 and .308 on it
Recently sold my 6.5 x 55, if I want to purchase another one do I have to reapply to the firearms officer or does the slot become vacant once I’ve sold the rifle ?
Had conflicting info some say have to apply for a 1 for 1 variation others said yes I now have a vacant slot

You will have to put a 1 for 1 variation in ...sadly

 

[rocketdogbert]

Ridiculously, you will need to put in for a 1 for 1 variation

 

[12gsnapcaps]

Ridiculously, you will need to put in for a 1 for 1 variation

Welcome to our ludicrous firearms system where police workload is primarily taken up by beurocratic paperwork that does nothing for public safety.

 

[MarkL]

Ok thanks, seems a pointless task I’ve got approval for a 6.5, notified the police I’ve sold my current rifle common sense would say safe to have another.

 

[kieran222]

If shotguns are re categorised it will be the same for them in the future, 1 for 1

 

[Mike1979]

Ok thanks, seems a pointless task I’ve got approval for a 6.5, notified the police I’ve sold my current rifle common sense would say safe to have another.

Common sense ...dont be daft

 

[topscots1]

You have to apply, you also need to notify the police of the sale of your other rifle. You should do this in a timely fashion from the sale, a timely fashion would be viewed as within 7 days.

 

[Mike1979]

For Dyfed Powys Police I had to do a 1 for 1 for a knackered sound mod. "sold" on the friday, online notification of disposal on the Monday, 1for1 about 1/2 hour after, new FAC received on the Wed...awesome service

 

[MarkL]

You have to apply, you also need to notify the police of the sale of your other rifle. You should do this in a timely fashion from the sale, a timely fashion would be viewed as within 7 days.

Thanks I did the notification on my laptop as I sold the rifle.
I didn’t intend to buy another 6.5 was going to use the .308 for everything but now I’m tempted by a day night scope and I have really good glsss on the .308 so a cheap 6.5 and a Alpex might be the path to take

 

[palmer_mike]

You have to apply, you also need to notify the police of the sale of your other rifle. You should do this in a timely fashion from the sale, a timely fashion would be viewed as within 7 days.

And if you miss the 7 days they’ll want paying for the new slot!

 

[spanj]

And if you miss the 7 days they’ll want paying for the new slot!

They arent entitled to do that

 

[palmer_mike]

They arent entitled to do that

Entitled or not, that’s what they do

 

[MarkL]

Entitled or not, that’s what they do

I’ll find out soon because I sold the rifle before Xmas so definitely over 7 days.

 

[M@tt]

There's no time limit (up to the expiry of the certificate) for the 1-4-1 and that's written in the Guidance.
A polite email asking why they seem it necessary to go against the Guidance (seen as best practice) usually gets them to toe the line, especially if they have to write it down.
No one wants to admit to doing it wrong in writing.

 

[long_range_rob]

“Seven days you say? Where precisely in the act is that stated please?”

 

[M@tt]

“Seven days you say? Where precisely in the act is that stated please?”

I think it often erroneously gets confused with the 7 days you have to notify the FLD of a disposal.

 

[spanj]

Entitled or not, that’s what they do

Oh ok just accept it then

 

[palmer_mike]

Oh ok just accept it then

What have you done to challenge it?

 

[spanj]

What have you done to challenge it?

Never had to challenge a 1 4 1 tbh but have challenged PLENTY of other things with my force. No fails so far (if I discount one totally ignord email ) Just costs a bit of time and effort, be polite, factual and tenacious.