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What will he pay for a skinned muntjac? Quite a lot of work for not a lot of meat
No they are in a park is that right @bottletopbill ?
bottletopbill
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No they are in a my land owners garden well over two hundred acres of land.
Nothing as been shot there for over 150 yrs it is abundant with all types of pest tree rats to deer foxes are welcomed as they clean up the waste.
Pheasants and woody's walk around as they own the place .
After me getting land cleared they invited yuppie mates to shoot the deer.
Shooting one a year was told by the manager.
But that is life
Nothing as been shot there for over 150 yrs it is abundant with all types of pest tree rats to deer foxes are welcomed as they clean up the waste.
Pheasants and woody's walk around as they own the place .
After me getting land cleared they invited yuppie mates to shoot the deer.
Shooting one a year was told by the manager.
But that is life
Best ask the British Deer Society.Then I suppose some stalkers will have to get less squeamish about head / neck shooting deer ? Can’t have it both ways
K
Quite, unless they are high neck shot with muntjac mostly standing on an angle, the high % will be a front leg clipped or smashed then it is worth very little to a dealer and will reflect in the low price.
I have 3 in the chiller 2 neck shot 1 from last night with a front leg/lower neck wiped out. All 3 does (one pregnant) so from a those 3 not breeding
it is a plus, flip it around with a person being guided for a "wall hanger" then those 3 would have had a pass with the other 2 soon be carrying.
Above is one 6th of the UK deer population/problem and they have no season
the BDS arent solving the problem its up to us , dont get me wrong i do like the BDS as a charityBest ask the British Deer Society.
K
Absolutely.
But the BDS can - and does - ensure that those stalkers who wish to avail themselves of it have access to training, advice, research, mentoring, range days and, now, insurance.
So while it is up to us to solve the problem the BDS is one of the resources we can use to assist us in that.
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Any training that increases a stalker's ability to shoot straight, and increases a stalker's confidence in their ability to shoot straight, does that.
Plus time in the field, observing deer behaviour. That's probably the bit that's lacking.
It is back to grass roots which people don't want to engage with, a good example of the young lad on here who was asking for stalking and completely dismissed the sage advice of mixing in with other types of shooting to gain knowledge of how farms/shoots are run.
There is more "advice" of (just get a few paid stalks under your belt) than (advice) gaining field craft and time learning because people only want one thing which is to shoot deer.
Ploddy Paul
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Ratel, again you’re giving me the problem not the solution. In your dreams what would you like to be able to do? Should all land have to have culling allowed? Should you be able to take a photo of the deer and inform the landowner and crack on? Should there be DMG’s who have access to all land in their area? Look non of this is going to happen but something has to change and who knows maybe?
VSS I do think the requirement to register does put people off. You are very lucky in that you have access to deer, though it sounds like you need more, you have the space for a dedicated processing area, you have the skill to butcher and are able to market your product successfully. I live in a small Victorian cottage, I have a decent fridge for a chiller, I process on the top of a chest freezer and cutting and mincing in the kitchen. I have no interest in having a market stall but would like to be able to sell mince or diced to friends but with my set up what’s the point in trying to register?
VSS I do think the requirement to register does put people off. You are very lucky in that you have access to deer, though it sounds like you need more, you have the space for a dedicated processing area, you have the skill to butcher and are able to market your product successfully. I live in a small Victorian cottage, I have a decent fridge for a chiller, I process on the top of a chest freezer and cutting and mincing in the kitchen. I have no interest in having a market stall but would like to be able to sell mince or diced to friends but with my set up what’s the point in trying to register?
How many are shot deer then caped for a wall mount with the rest not able to go to a dealer?
In Africa all of the meat is given away after it is caped.
Try as much as you like but it won't change as there are far more pressing matters which need attention in the UK than deer.
bottletopbill
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We can all dream of a permission with deer there.
No prize stags then i think as with me and other's we would invest in chiller's that hold one or two.
As i know the deer would be gone in a day or two.
Shot a muntjac on a paid stalk what was left went to son.
No prize stags then i think as with me and other's we would invest in chiller's that hold one or two.
As i know the deer would be gone in a day or two.
Shot a muntjac on a paid stalk what was left went to son.
bottletopbill
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Tim that is where some stalker's earn good money for a prized deer.
Points means cash one stalkers wife paid for a birthday stalk for him.
End of day cost him a extra £400. he said never again
Points means cash one stalkers wife paid for a birthday stalk for him.
End of day cost him a extra £400. he said never again
You missed my point somewhat.
Forget all that butchering and retailing stuff for a moment.
Registration as a food business is required in order to sell carcasses straight from the field to a game dealer. It is simple, and it is free. All you need is a clean vehicle and carcass trays, some form of record keeping for traceability purposes, and a HACCP document.
It really isn't a big deal, and certainly not something that would put anyone off.
You don't need a chiller, or anywhere to do butchery, or a market stall, in order to sell carcasses.
If you want to take things to the next level and start processing carcassss for sale then of course you need to invest in suitable equipment etc, but no additional registration is required.
shouldve discussed prices and fees beforehand
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