Cogswell & Harrison

[NOTSHARP]

I am trying to date a Cogswell & Harrison, Konor, side by side shotgun. The serial number is 80084.

I understand that serial number dates are in Vol 1, of Nigel Brown's trilogy. If anyone has a copy, and would be good enough to look it up for me, It would be most appreciated.

I did send a request to C&H via their website, but received a reply stating that, due to Covid, the email address was no longer monitored.



Steve.

 

[webley701]

The serial numbers in Brown's Vol 1 only reach as far as 66,632. There's no additional information in the third volume either.

 

[NOTSHARP]

The serial numbers in Brown's Vol 1 only reach as far as 66,632. There's no additional information in the third volume either.

Thank you very much for having a look for me. I'll see if I can speak to someone at C&H to morrow.



Steve.

 

[enfieldspares]

See this:

British Proofs

This will at least tell you if before of after 1954 approx. Then if London after 1973 it will have LP over the last two year digits. So LP over 76 will be 1976. That now gives you a twenty yeat 1954 to 1973 window and after that a precise year. Before 1954 you have the previous change in 1925 so, again, a thirty year window.

 

[NOTSHARP]

See this:

British Proofs

This will at least tell you if before of after 1954 approx. Then if London after 1973 it will have LP over the last two year digits. So LP over 76 will be 1976. That now gives you a twenty yeat 1954 to 1973 window and after that a precise year. Before 1954 you have the previous change in 1925 so, again, a thirty year window.

Thank you. I do not have the gun to hand, only poor quality pictures.









Birmingham proof by the look of it.


It handles beautifully.




Steve.

 

[enfieldspares]

The link I posted in Rifles and Calibres on SD will tell you the "secret" Birmingham date codes. I think that the gun has had a re-proof? In which case the action flats will show both the Birmingham re-proof mark and the London mark?

Proof Date Codes

 

[NOTSHARP]

The link I posted in Rifles and Calibres on SD will tell you the "secret" Birmingham date codes. I think that the gun has had a re-proof? In which case the action flats will show both the Birmingham re-proof mark and the London mark?

Proof Date Codes

Thank you once again. I shall try to get some high res images of the flats.


Steve.

 

[GWP]

I am not sure who owns C&H now Irish company if my dodgy memory serves me right the original guys used to charge £35 but you got the full history for that i have the history for my Victor built 1913

 

[enfieldspares]

I am not sure who owns C&H now Irish company if my dodgy memory serves me right the original guys used to charge £35 but you got the full history for that i have the history for my Victor built 1913

At one time it was Sam Cummins of Interarms. Back once upon a time I bought a French MAB P-15 from them when they were on Picadilly.

 

[Covert]

Might be of help. Extracts from Cogswell & Harrison book by Cooley and Newton

 

[NOTSHARP]

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Might be of help. Extracts from Cogswell & Harrison book by Cooley and NewtonView attachment 462991

Thank you very much for that information. Much appreciated.



Steve.

 

[NOTSHARP]

The link I posted in Rifles and Calibres on SD will tell you the "secret" Birmingham date codes. I think that the gun has had a re-proof? In which case the action flats will show both the Birmingham re-proof mark and the London mark?

Proof Date Codes

If I am reading this correctly, it dates from 1967.




Many thanks to all, for your help and input.



Steve.

 

[NOTSHARP]

Anyone that may be looking for information of a specific C&H gun, this is how to apply for it.

https://www.ardeesports.com/shop?store-page=Cogswell-%26-Harrison-Provenance-p757199089

Steve.