Calling all Parker Hale experts…

Yep, same stock, sights but different safety. I might have to figure out a different safety system so I can scope it.
 
They didn’t necessarily stick rigidly to a series specs, they used what actions, sights etc where available. It’s not uncommon to see the same series PH’s but with slightly different features
 
Yep, same stock, sights but different safety. I might have to figure out a different safety system so I can scope it.
Why do you need a different safety system? Nothing wrong with the flag safety at all, and it won't interfere with putting a scope on the rifle.
 
The Midland was, of course, made using surplus Springfield 1903 bolts. The story goes that P-Hale were offered a warehouse full (well maybe not that many) and took them as the action is easy to make, per se, compared with making the complete bolt. The later P-Hale such as the M81 Classic use the derided Spanish "Santa Barbara" action. I don't see it is lacking at all works as intended and works well.
 
Very good to know- the rifle is still at my gunsmith and I was concerned that the flag wouldn’t clear the bottom of the scope. Once again, you fellas have saved me some worry!
Thanks much
 
Very good to know- the rifle is still at my gunsmith and I was concerned that the flag wouldn’t clear the bottom of the scope. Once again, you fellas have saved me some worry!
Thanks much
That flag safety would need to higher for mounts for my liking I’d swap it out for a 2 position flag safety, PH did a good one and Timney (I think) do a modern version you can get them from Brownells
 
Why do you need a different safety system? Nothing wrong with the flag safety at all, and it won't interfere with putting a scope on the rifle.
Yes, mine has flag safety , never had a problem with scope mounting.
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That flag safety would need to higher for mounts for my liking I’d swap it out for a 2 position flag safety, PH did a good one and Timney (I think) do a modern version you can get them from Brownells


Low mounts works fine with flag safety. As you can see:
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That's about as low as a scope can possibly go, and no issues at all.
 
Each to his own big objective for a dg rifle I prefer a something more like 1-8x24 mounted low like the iron sights in quick release mounts.

But you’ve removed your iron sights
Those are the lowest mounts that Parker-Hale did, so even your smaller diameter objective scope is still going to have the eyepiece well clear of the flag safety.

(Incidentally, the rear sight can be slipped back onto its base very easily. And it doesn't interfere with the use of the scope at all. I just took it off while I wasn't using it, rather than risk losing or damaging it).
 
Those are the lowest mounts that Parker-Hale did, so even your smaller diameter objective scope is still going to have the eyepiece well clear of the flag safety.

(Incidentally, the rear sight can be slipped back onto its base very easily. And it doesn't interfere with the use of the scope at all. I just took it off while I wasn't using it, rather than risk losing or damaging it).
Not quite, what you are depicting is a retrofit 2 pos ‘lo swing’ safety fitted to a military bolt shroud. The original military 3 pos safety goes 180 degrees and only works if you have insanely high rings.

The OP will, to mount a normal scope at normal height, to either fit a low swing 2 pos safety, or even better, have a 2-3 position side safety fitted, but these require milling work and fitting at around £300 unless an aftermarket unit is purchased at likely an even higher price
 
Are, I see now. We're talking at cross purposes. Apologies :tiphat:

(Although mine is on a military action, as is the OP's :-| )
Most were on military action but had the PH 2 position safety unless later on they had the good PH Trigger fitted with the poorer side safety.

They safety on your rifle is my favourite and allows the lowest scope mounts to be used, I was luck to be able to buy a box from Bill at Norman Clarke years ago so I still use them on some builds.
 
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Not quite, what you are depicting is a retrofit 2 pos ‘lo swing’ safety fitted to a military bolt shroud. The original military 3 pos safety goes 180 degrees and only works if you have insanely high rings.

The OP will, to mount a normal scope at normal height, to either fit a low swing 2 pos safety, or even better, have a 2-3 position side safety fitted, but these require milling work and fitting at around £300 unless an aftermarket unit is purchased at likely an even higher price
Thanks for clearing that up!
But why do you think a side safety is better?
 
Most were on military action but had the PH 2 position safety unless later on they had the good PH Trigger fitted with the poorer side safety.

They safety on your rifle is my favourite and allows the lowest scope mounts to be used, I was luck to be able to buy a box from Bill at Norman Clarke years ago so I still use them on some builds.
If you've got a boxful of the 2-position flags, perhaps the OP will be in touch shortly.... 😀
 
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