Truck free stalking?

What’s the make of that box? Looks like an alternative to the plasterers bath that might keep the passengers contained

Used to buy them in homebase as I have a few.
Actually have wee wheels on the bottom.
Some of those home bargains BM type shoes have heaps of cheapish storage solutions.
 
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I stalked fir many years firstly with a Golf Mk2, then a Skoda Octavia, then a Kangoo and an Audi A4.

Your feet are a very good off road means of transport. In the car you want a big plastic bin etc to contain all the blood etc. I would also put in a rubber boot liner in place of carpet.

Decathlon used to make a really good carcass bag - not sure if these are still available.

Muntjac, Roe etc ate really quite small and don’t take up a lot of room. Big deer - a knife can be used to take a deer apart. You don’t necessarily have to skin first, but you can remove the whole front end 4th or 5th rib back - cut all the way round and either saw or twist and the spine will break, leaving the forequarters and haunch / loin which are much more manageable. Or skin and then quarter.

An alternative is a trailer or a heck basket on a tow ball.
The heck basket is one thought. I’d need a tow bar fitted first. But also keeps the insects and smell out of the car. I will look into the bag. I’ve got a roe sack for the smaller deer, and chiller that can take up to 1 fallow or a couple of roe. It’s the extraction that I’m a bit concerned by. I’m told there can even be a few red around on permission - I won’t touch them with my current set up!
 
So, am I the only one on here who doesn’t have a truck or 4x4 to work with? As I approach my first permission I’m feeling pretty under-gunned in the wheels department as I’m going to have to make do with either an Audi a6 estate or a VW polo. The Audi has ample boot space but low ground clearance. The polo has more clearance but is going to feel a squeeze with more than a muntjac in the boot! The new ground has a lot of fallow I understand and access will be a bit mixed. I’m in for a lot of dragging I dragging. Anyone else in the same boat and any suggestions for how to make the best of it? A replacement car isn’t an option at the moment sadly.
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I spent 10 years stalking from a Ford Focus. Roe and fallow.

I made it work, but it was brutal. Roe are manageable: you can carry them a long way. Fallow need careful thinking about access points and extraction routes. I shot big ones a bit too far from an access points a few times, and really regretted it.

Occasionally I had access to a quad, and that changed everything. If you have one, or can get access to one, then you can do almost anything you need without a 4x4.
 
I would suggest a trailer. You can also put some sort of wheeled deer cart on it as well so you don’t have to drive where it is not suitable to go. A winch to haul carcasses onto the trailer. In reality, it depends on how big your ground and how good the access is, or even of the farmer will let you borrow his tractor to pick the carcasses up.
 
Yes the ticks and keds being right behind me does appeal much! And the wife will give me hell when she finds them later on one of the kids…
Wouldn’t worry too much about that. I’m in the same boat as you. I used to use a 55 gallon drum cut in half and put the carcass in a fly net. Works well for keeping the bugs / blood away out of the car. Most farmers will have spare drums laying around.

Or if you have £130 I recently upgraded to a Coleman chiller box which seals with a lid. It’s also got basic wheels if the ground is good. It’s got 95ltr capacity and can take up to 110kg so big enough for a fallow but lifting it into the back of the car would be a back breaker with bigger deer. May have to quarter it in the field to manage.

 
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I am putting up my L200 pickup as i have bought a mid size diesel van . Most my off roading is more because i can over why don't i just park right here and walk in ! Its amazing on fuel and its got a lot more space for dead deer, guns , kit and Dogs .
Will put some more grippy tyres on it when the current tread wears . If your looking for a good cheap L200 with long MOT etc I have one looking for a new home
 
I got over it via the same amount of wheels you have on your car...

Some will want to put a fallow in a sika sack but they won't put 2 in and bollix it back to the car, early season will be fat also trying to pick out a young buck following his mum or last years buck is not so easy. A rush of blood and you have a 40+ kg dressed lump on the floor.
I got over it "my way" so the 2 in a sika sack gang left the building lol




1 from a brace of red hinds

That cart looks a great job, I’m just getting started on some ground with reds only and been worried about extracting them, it’s fairly hilly ground and will be a climb out to get back to the vehicle so might need some brakes to stop it from pulling me back down the hill 😅
 
That cart looks a great job, I’m just getting started on some ground with reds only and been worried about extracting them, it’s fairly hilly ground and will be a climb out to get back to the vehicle so might need some brakes to stop it from pulling me back down the hill 😅
I made it to sort recovery on the ground I shoot over and get that part with hilly land which people have, however after the slating from a number of members the first trip out was 300 yds with no chance of getting closer. After that first go they went quiet lol
You can see the new plywood :rofl:
Part of the 300 yd jolly lol

 
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A roof box works well for deer transport. I’ve had a Sika in mine and plenty of Roe and Muntjac. This time of year tricky to manage the heat but in the cooler months cools the carcass down nicely. Tow bar hitch boxes look really handy too.
 
I made it to sort recovery on the ground I shoot over and get that part with hilly land which people have, however after the slating from a number of members the first trip out was 300 yds with no chance of getting closer. After that first go they went quiet lol
You can see the new plywood :rofl:
Part of the 300 yd jolly lol


Oh there’s no criticism here I’ll definitely be copying it, really like that winch setup at the vehicle too. The hills around me are all drumlins so short hills but fairly steep, my van won’t get anywhere near the deer so that sort of trolley makes the most sense I think.
 
It all depends on where and what you are stalking.
In 15 years I have never driven onto a permission other than to park inside a gateway. Mostly I park in the farm yard or on the roadside in a gateway.
Although I have a shogun, it really isn’t needed most of the time as I mainly shoot roe/cwd/munty and they all go into my sika sack. I have even had fallow does in there, so everything I shoot comes out on my back and into the boot of the truck.

That being said, you can pick up a cheap 4x4 for not much money (check this out https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/358710828680?itmmeta=01KW45WY33DJDQ7ZJ2FBYET6K9&hash=item5384d4de88:g:HjwAAeSw0vRqM6-V&itmprp=enc:AQALAAAAwDKQclQvzFwZQpmMrsO4LuqNfT63kz49BfVdjyF56oRXp7LOkXw7KrZijntI8+IsirFMhm+N8CqD3Nt4d+cn4z8cc2y4VZnQOswCssl5LD+1XkUpT2U8YnhGyvn9uSovbvUZn01k5LuyLwrg8n4iyoA7qHHw+GNil24H+eVB9v2/r9Gib/6mhrnXPIi83v4b9xcAfuYQBIpU4pmi/V2z2vOrFf0aiF6G7zlAr6P6f/iH/Mg0WaE1zUQOUhFQRrVu2w==|tkp:Bk9SR9bh84XhZw. I had one of these) so, if not now then soon you could join the mud plugger’s club.

Just make sure you have a carcass tray for the back of the car so that you don’t redecorate the interior with deer blood!!
I will start there too - should maybe have got a sika sack instead of the roe, but I haven’t tested it yet with anything larger. Whether my back would manage a fallow is another matter too!!
 
Pictures show a variety of levels of stupidity from me. Always got her out under her own steam. Small rabbit spade and a hand winch. I’ll find some with deer in the back. I use the same black box as linked above.

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Blimey! I’m amazed you got out of that first one without a tractor pulling! Yup I can line the back like that for sure - the carpets are pretty muddy already, but they’d smell if I had carcasses on them for any length.
 
All down to your fitness. I wouldn't pull the trigger on a big fallow more than 200 yds flat drag from where I could get a vehicle or I have a few mates with me.
 
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Years ago I helped a friend out culling mainly fallow on a small piece of private woodland up on the South Downs that had no vehicle access permitted.

We modified an old fashioned folding golfing trolley to get the carcasses out to the truck. It was ideal as it had large wide wheels so didn’t sink too badly in soft ground & in itself was fairly light meaning we were not pulling that much additional weight.

Pulled the animal headfirst towards the handle, the back then cradled into the bits which would’ve originally stopped the golf bag falling sideways. The bottom bit was modified so there was a ‘shelf’ to sit the arse of the animal on so it didn’t slide down as it was wheeled out & we used to tie round the chest under the armpits & up to the handle from memory. Unfortunately all before the advent of camera phones so I don’t have any pictures.

This type of thing but more substantially made.

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One thing you need to be aware of with fallow is once they’re dead they become big heavy floppy lumps that aren’t easy to get up into the back of a vehicle. A ramp of some kind that you can slide them up will assist you immensely, as too will some sort of rope & pulley system - even if it’s just a rope you hook up between the outside seat hinges with a central loop that you can attach a simple doubler block to.

Back in the day when my carcasses all went inside my everyday vehicle I used an old ‘office moves’ / ‘teacrate’ box to contain all the mess.
 
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