i have had a e-mail today from Cluny Guns say it is the case
Moderators off ticket tomorrow then ..
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btd1975
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BASC just released this
basc.org.uk
BASC welcomes sound moderator reform as it comes into force
Sound moderators are removed from firearms licensing controls today as section 44 of the Crime and Policing Act 2026 comes into force across England, Wales and Scotland.
basc.org.uk
Heym SR20
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I really don’t get the issue of needing to possess an FAC or a SC to possess a moderator for an FAC rifle.
We no longer specific permission or variation to buy or sell one. Just pop down to your favourite RFD, show your certificate and buy one.
I also question why would anybody want to possess a moderator if they didn’t have an FAC Rifle. Only if someone was up to no good.
Difference between a moderator and piece of scaffolding pipe is that a moderator is designed, manufactured, marketed and sold specifically as a moderator. Most do carry manufacturing stamps, logos etc. I think you probably struggle to convince the courts that the piece of tube marked with DPT, Stalon etc and stating a model number and calibre is not a moderator and sold as such.
Now, hopefully the reduction in work load for FEOs will result in blockages in departments being released. And as they see the huge improvement in workflow, and minimal impact on public safety they will also remove the need for one for one variations, indeed remove the need to change from cartridge to another similar cartridge. I can understand leaving in a variation for increasing number of rifles.
We no longer specific permission or variation to buy or sell one. Just pop down to your favourite RFD, show your certificate and buy one.
I also question why would anybody want to possess a moderator if they didn’t have an FAC Rifle. Only if someone was up to no good.
Difference between a moderator and piece of scaffolding pipe is that a moderator is designed, manufactured, marketed and sold specifically as a moderator. Most do carry manufacturing stamps, logos etc. I think you probably struggle to convince the courts that the piece of tube marked with DPT, Stalon etc and stating a model number and calibre is not a moderator and sold as such.
Now, hopefully the reduction in work load for FEOs will result in blockages in departments being released. And as they see the huge improvement in workflow, and minimal impact on public safety they will also remove the need for one for one variations, indeed remove the need to change from cartridge to another similar cartridge. I can understand leaving in a variation for increasing number of rifles.
I think you need the FAC not to own a moderator which might conceivably be used on (or have been used on) an FAC rifle, but to own a moderator which is actually attached to an FAC rifle.
Otherwise, just like before this change, everyone with an airgun mod would need an FAC (or, weirdly, SGC) - as these would all work on FAC-airguns and (arguably) .22LR
The .gov have notified the World and everyone in it with the publication of "The Crime and Policing Act 2026 (Commencement No.1 and Saving Provision) Regulations 2026".
Unfortunately, I don't think they tell everyone individually.
Heym SR20
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The law talks about it being offence to “possess” a moderator unless you possess a FAC or SC.
There is an exemption for moderators for sub 12 ft ib air rifles.
Possess means you have it in your possession. It doesn’t mean when fitted to a rifle. A moderator for a section 1 rifle remains a moderator whether or not it is actually fitted to a rifle.
12gsnapcaps
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This element of uncertainty makes me think we need to wait for an actual letter/email/clarification from an/our FLM's - all firearm laws are strict liability offences so I'm, for one, not taking any chances.
paul o'
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End of the day its stupid its not a firearm nor can it be used as one its not even the same size as the bore of one .
It would have been so easy to do what they were saying ! Instead of wrapping BS around an already stupid rule
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With that said are /will we be able to just buy them ! Or can they be obtained but still we would need to give notice once put on a firearm! If this is the case its no better than it was before ????.
It would have been so easy to do what they were saying ! Instead of wrapping BS around an already stupid rule
. With that said are /will we be able to just buy them ! Or can they be obtained but still we would need to give notice once put on a firearm! If this is the case its no better than it was before ????.
As far as I am aware there is no requirement for the sale to be recorded and technically there is no need to show a valid FAC to the RFD as the offence lies with having a moderator (ignoring air rifles here) without an FAC. I appreciate a lot of RFDs will probably ask to see an FAC from a due diligence point of view.
As has been mentioned though...why would you want a moderator or muzzle break if you dont have the firearm to go with it.
As has been mentioned though...why would you want a moderator or muzzle break if you dont have the firearm to go with it.
enfieldspares
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There's folk still think that Richard III is KIng in some parts of the county.
enfieldspares
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Like a detachable magazine, or for an old no longer made weapon an original rearsight, or volley sight. That sometimes you see a thing and buy it as you won't know when you'll see one at that price (or at any price). And you know of a friend who needs it or want it to "put by" should you yourself then in future purchase what it fits. For years before the Tory handgun ban I'd buy Smith & Wesson revolver "diamond" grips and standard grips and Webley Mk VI grips for just that reason. The Smith & Wesson to replace the aftermarket Pachmayr grips that someone would often had replaced the original grips with.
No, you missed that boat. Yesterday you could have, but today your mod slot is just so much wasted ink on you FAC.Can I get one for one on all my mods then?
West Mercia are advising gun shops in my area this afternoon that as far as they are concerned there has been no change as they haven’t heard anything from the government. I’m guessing it will take them a while to catch up.
I would assume we would still record the transaction in the register as normal, just no need to notify the FLD.
Much like air gun transactions, the transaction need to be registered only and sent via RFD. Once they leave the shop it's a free for all on the private sales and posting of the items.
Deerhunter22
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With them off license can you still only have 1 at a time ? I’ve got a Hauksen I love but I’d like to try a Freyr Devik etc but be nice to not have to sell the first to try the latter
You can fit as many as you like to your rifle, it'll be so quiet.
Seriously though, you can have as many as you like.
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