Sleep deprivation...

following with interest since i'm 55 now and good sleep is rather illusive , i can make it through the night still without needing to get up for a wee but have trouble getting to sleep then don't sleep well and always wake early

so any ideas other than drinking less alcohol or black coffee and losing weight or stopping doom scrolling on my phone are welcome !
White noise (fan or a device that plays soft rainfall or ocean waves). Light cancelling blinds (Levelor make some cellular ones that work well, and don't cost a fortune).

Both of these have helped me a lot.
 
I have a three metre by two metre window 900mm from my bed and no curtains or blinds at all. I have always been able to sleep on a washing line and can nap at any time of day, the flip side is that I am useless late at night or after a big meal or after a few drinks. When I was young I could stay up at work or out with no issues, now I would happily go to bed at 2000hrs every night. Foxes, rabbits and deer are very inconsiderate.

It can’t all be bad being a night owl must be far better for shooting than a sleepy soul.
 
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I have the prostate a chap in his sixties can expect.

It means I go to the loo on multiple occasions through the night.

To prevent these nocturnal segues from disrupting my sleep patterns, I have developed a trick that really works: when I get up, I keep one eye closed. One eye is enough to get me to the bathroom and keep the stream on target.

What I have found is that when I then get back to bed and close that [usually left] eye, I fall straight back into sleep. If I ever open both eyes, somehow the binocular vision rekindles the part of the brain that deals with day-related activities and my conscious mind starts pondering the last thing it was working on afresh. Sleep is then elusive.
 
White noise (fan or a device that plays soft rainfall or ocean waves). Light cancelling blinds (Levelor make some cellular ones that work well, and don't cost a fortune).

Both of these have helped me a lot.
Personally, I think light cancelling blinds are only of any use if you have a problem with artificial light, such as street lighting outside the window.
Natural light is a good thing, imo. Moonlight or sunrise should be allowed to flood the bedroom with natural light. I cannot sleep at all with closed curtains and closed windows, regardless of the weather and temperature. In fact, we have no curtains anywhere in our house, except the spare bedroom (so guests can make their own choice).

Me, I like to feel the wind ruffling my hair when I'm in bed, and if I open my eyes I want to be able to see the sky.
 
Personally, I think light cancelling blinds are only of any use if you have a problem with artificial light, such as street lighting outside the window.
Natural light is a good thing, imo. Moonlight or sunrise should be allowed to flood the bedroom with natural light. I cannot sleep at all with closed curtains and closed windows, regardless of the weather and temperature. In fact, we have no curtains anywhere in our house, except the spare bedroom (so guests can make their own choice).

Me, I like to feel the wind ruffling my hair when I'm in bed, and if I open my eyes I want to be able to see the sky.
For me, it's because I developed the habit of sleeping with my eyes open (not wide open, but they open about 1/3 of the way) when physically tired. As a Marine, it was a good thing, but as I age it has led to some sleeping challenges. Any light or movement triggers me awake, so a dark room is best for me.

A lot more people do this than they realize. Just think of a cat, sitting there napping with eyes slitted half closed. Same principle.
 
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67 and been suffering from increasing poor sleep for a number of years. Can't remember when I last hsd s full night. Generally away at least 3 times through between bed st 10 pm and 5 am, by which time it impossible to lie in bed. Bladder isn't thd problem, although after a stretch and quick pee I sleep for another hour.
Cutting out caffeine helped.
Excess alcohol doesn't but a bed time tipple seems to be s benifit.
As mentioned above. Magnesium capsules help.
 
Exercise, plenty of water, read a book before bed and don’t look at any screen at least 1 hour before bedtime.
I do all this. Book falls in my lap and im sound within 10 minutes of going to bed, but thst only lssy for s couple of hours then im awake every hour until I finally give up at about 5.
 
For me, it's because I developed the habit of sleeping with my eyes open (not wide open, but they open about 1/3 of the way) when physically tired. As a Marine, it was a good thing, but as I age it has led to some sleeping challenges. Any light or movement triggers me awake, so a dark room is best for me.

A lot more people do this than they realize. Just think of a cat, sitting there napping with eyes slitted half closed. Same principle.
Yes, I developed that habit too, from catching short naps in the lambing shed at lambing time. Anything happening among the ewes would have me full awake in an instant. I still do it. But it doesn't stop me getting a proper night's sleep when that's what's needed.
 
Yes, I developed that habit too, from catching short naps in the lambing shed at lambing time. Anything happening among the ewes would have me full awake in an instant. I still do it. But it doesn't stop me getting a proper night's sleep when that's what's needed.
No sleeping on lambing watch here Tim all that screaming when the fox turned up.
 
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