BMH Tracking Day Scotland

[widows son]

Davie, I know a couple of gay bitches they got married 6 months ago the wedding photos are a hoot

Loose the red rag it looks like a sign for George Michael to follow you into the bog .

I could just imagine putting that on a springer it would eat it leg off .lol

 

[6pointer]

It is only on useing paint shop bob but regards the gay bitches i can cope with that all i would need is a video and a little red hanky lol.
Happy hunting.

 

[widu]

Hello Gent's .
Would just like to add to the story here. First as has been said the the BmH soc, UK. went to the trouble to organise a tracking day in Scotland , after repeated jibes that they never do anything more than 40 miles from home . Only one person confirmed an interest to attend, so the shame is on those who asked for it then could'nt be arsed to book to give it a chance.
The main problems as I see it ,
1. Cost, in traveling. B&B, etc,
2. Cost in setting up ground , tracks etc.
3. Then the big one, how many of the BGS/Tracking dog'' owners actually want to learn how to do the job properly, to a high standard,

 

[barongcw]

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The main problems as I see it ,
1. Cost, in traveling. B&B, etc,
2. Cost in setting up ground , tracks etc.
3. Then the big one, how many of the BGS/Tracking dog'' owners actually want to learn how to do the job properly, to a high standard,

Afternoon Widu,

Your certainly asked the right questions. Let me ask a more specific one.

If a tracking day is organised around the Kelso Stalking Fair in March 2012 how many people would want to attend?

The tracking would consist of a sit and stay excercise of your hound with you out of sight with a rifle shot in the middle followed by an about 1KM track as realistic as one can make it.
As for costs I am toying with the idea of a £ 50 entry fee which will be 100% refunded if you complete.

It is very early days yet but I am looking for reactions if it is worthwhile organising.

 

[widu]

Sorry , computer glitch or driver error not sure which.
That's where the post (Trained Deer Dog Really.) comes in . As I see it ,and as the support shows, very few owners, as they are happy with what they have or do.It really is a shame that these folks won't step up to the post and put their dog where their mouth is .
4. Also 6 pointer is right , ( although he can be annoying, with this patriotic north of the border blurb) none are willing to move to the next level within a working group , that is controled breeding from only proven working dogs of accepted pedigree.
I believe that till we the owners of these so called tracking dogs are willing to do so, the dogs and the so called tracking abilty will remain just another post on here or just hot air and wasted ink.
How many would be interested to meet mid way , and give a National tracking w/end a go.
As I live in N/yorks and that is about mid way, I have the ground available, and with a bit of support can do this . Anyone interested, let'see. Regards Widu.

TO STRIVE, TO SEEK, TO FIND ,AND NEVER TO YIELD.

 

[widu]

Just would like to add, I have a field at the back of the house so if you don't want to pay b/b, you can pitch a tent or park a caravan if this helps with the cost .If nothing else we can work the dogs talk crap and have a party .Can't make it any easier than that . Whats your take on this,
Regards Widu.

 

[stone]

Is this only open to hounds or can any dog be allowed to enter??
As I would be interested if this goes ahead

 

[barongcw]

Is this only open to hounds or can any dog be allowed to enter??
As I would be interested if this goes ahead

My reaction would be tracking dogs first but if there are not enough of them it is open to everybody. But to repeat if you fail it will cost you £ 50 so I suggest training is essential.

 

[jamross65]

Just would like to add, I have a field at the back of the house so if you don't want to pay b/b, you can pitch a tent or park a caravan if this helps with the cost .If nothing else we can work the dogs talk crap and have a party .Can't make it any easier than that . Whats your take on this,
Regards Widu.

You know I would be wanting to come to this!

 

[6pointer]

Baron you do talk crap some times lol. What you are putting on is a test and to fail this self promoted test means expense. In my opinion what is need is education not self elevation. But i will take you on with your challenge as i am willing to put my hound up. But you hound must then work the way my dog dose and if it fails i want your porsche.Works out about the same financially.
Ps widu midway in Scotland is Stirling midway in England is Stafford.
Now if you want to show off your hounds do so, If you want to compete do so if there is any one to compete with. But for me and other lads i have spoke to its about education not competition.
May i also ask were the £50 gose

 

[widu]

Hello 6pointer
As far as the £50 is concerned, thats not my idea and as far as i'm conserned it it could go towards some Anglo -Scottish,anger management lessons for you.
If you look at my post it says nothing about competition ,it was ment to possibly, get some folks together and have a go , on different trails or not, depends on numbers and interest or not.
Straight away you stick your head up above the parapet with,The lads i talk to , ever tried listening!!!.. Just for once.
It was not intended as a competition, nor a show, oh and not a geography lesson . please lighten up , if you don't want to come here to God's country that's fine but you are, and would be made welcome. The whol idea is to educate dog and owner alike. I think this site is meant to possibly bring like minded thoughts and individuals together. So give it a try if there is enough interest you might like what you find.
Regards WIDU.
TO STRIVE , TO SEEK , TO FIND, AND NEVER TO YIELD.

 

[barongcw]

Baron you do talk crap some times lol. What you are putting on is a test and to fail this self promoted test means expense. In my opinion what is need is education not self elevation. But i will take you on with your challenge as i am willing to put my hound up. But you hound must then work the way my dog dose and if it fails i want your porsche.Works out about the same financially.
Ps widu midway in Scotland is Stirling midway in England is Stafford.
Now if you want to show off your hounds do so, If you want to compete do so if there is any one to compete with. But for me and other lads i have spoke to its about education not competition.
May i also ask were the £50 gose

Charm will get you everywhere!
It is early days yet but doubtless in consultation with Jamross an extensive educational programmme on tracking will be arranged during the fair. Rest assured: for free!
What I propose with the trail is somewhat different. It is meant for people who are of the opinion that they have a fully trained scenthound. This scenthound will then have to prove himself on the proposed excercises. It is not a competition but a confirmation how good your hound is.
The £ 50 pound entry fee is simply to stop somebody with a poodle or suchlike "having a go". It is a fair bit of work to lay out these tests and think it a waste of everybody's time to enter it with a dog that is manifestly incapable of completing it.
This is not supposed to be fun but hard work for which training is necessary. In my view we will have few takers but I stand to be corrected.

The £ 50 either goes back to you if you complete or to Jamross to help with his expenses.

As for the porsche I got rid of it and my hound will be fast asleep at home.

Happy?

 

[jamross65]

Now I know this is lighthearted banter, but I am in the position of having met Baron, Widu and 6p. I even refer to Wolverine as a mate, but still cannot understand what he is saying half the time...

What cracks me up is the winding up that goes on here. you all have your own subtle ways (some not so) of doing it!

What I do know is that you would all be amazed at the commonality in your thoughts on the matter of training a dog for deer! Obviously not every aspect of the topic will be agreed on, but that is a good thing because everyone brings something different to the table for discussion.

I think it will be a hoot when we are all in the same room along with whoever else wants to join us, to talk dogs, deer and training over a dram!

 

[stone]

My reaction would be tracking dogs first but if there are not enough of them it is open to everybody. But to repeat if you fail it will cost you £ 50 so I suggest training is essential.

And there is the big question
What is a tracking dog??
Or should it be what makes it one??

 

[Gazza]

Baron You had me thinking back with your "poodle having a go" comment. I remember going to a working trial at Kilmarnock many years ago. A woman turned up with a very fit looking white standard poodle. Absolute cracking dog at agility, searching and tracking. Now what better disguise as an urban deer controller like 6p out with a poodle. lol

 

[widu]

Mornin All.
Thanks jamross. as always you have got the best grip on it . If we could agree a place to meet track, train talk, watch , listen , learn, have a little party , (hic!) I am sure all these like minded guys and gals would go away with so much more than just a hangover. Also you are welcome here anytime, so bring your beautiful Hound and lets try a few trails, Oh , bring Wolverine,as well, and maybe a translater!. Only joking about the translater.
REGARDS WIDU.
TO STRIVE, TO SEEK, TO FIND, AND NEVER TO YIELD.

 

[6pointer]

This is the start standard and every thing should have a start a middle and an end.It dose not matter how good a dog is or coould be if it has not had the CORRECT training then it will fail even the most basic test i look forward to the events to educate.

The Schweisshund Aptitude test is a basic test to see if the hound has the aptitude to track. This test also incorperates basic obedience and reporting of the carcass aswell as tracking ability.

Tracks:

• 400 metres in length
• Aged 3-5 hours
• include 2 severe turns
  
• include an optional additional 200 metre free track
  
• include reporting at carcass
• basic obedience (loose heel, 5 min stay in one place, change of direction)

Hounds completing this test are graded: Fail, Grade III, Grade II or Grade I

 

[Wolverine]

Hoi!!!!Fit div ye mean I need a translator,abody can understand me up here nae bither.
Hmmm I'm lookin forward tae Saturday on Davies day,abody'll sit er wi blank expressions,at least one I ma pals'll understand me,the one wi the 14 week aul teckel I'll translate for abody er cos he's broader an me
Widu,let me ken fan Brian an I need tae come doon.We enjoy a dram
Gazza is at nae a poodle in disguise 6 pointers got onyway?
Got a wee test up ma sleeve for Saturday,hehehe!

 

[Wolverine]

This is the start standard and every thing should have a start a middle and an end.It dose not matter how good a dog is or coould be if it has not had the CORRECT training then it will fail even the most basic test i look forward to the events to educate.

The Schweisshund Aptitude test is a basic test to see if the hound has the aptitude to track. This test also incorperates basic obedience and reporting of the carcass aswell as tracking ability.

Tracks:

• 400 metres in length
• Aged 3-5 hours
• include 2 severe turns
  
• include an optional additional 200 metre free track
  
• include reporting at carcass
• basic obedience (loose heel, 5 min stay in one place, change of direction)

Hounds completing this test are graded: Fail, Grade III, Grade II or Grade I

Is at for a 6 month aul pup??

 

[6pointer]

Not according to the BMH society and it really dose not matter what i am saying it needs to be wrote down then it can be taught. It needs to be taught by experienced chaps. Age matters not at first once the infrastructure is in place then ages can become part of the program.

http://www.bmhs.org.uk/Tests.html