243 fazination???

[MARCBO]

Why would anyone want to shoot a 243, if you cannot take your game with a 22 caliber cartridge why would you not step up to a 30 caliber of some sort? Growing up in the Western US most people I knew of using a 243 were women who had trouble with the recoil of anything larger...

SS

 

[scubadog]

you are about 4 days too early with this post matey!

 

[User00003]

Why would anyone want to shoot a 243, if you cannot take your game with a 22 caliber cartridge why would you not step up to a 30 caliber of some sort? .

SS

because it's a cracking all rounder for small vermin, fox, small deer, medium deer, even some large deer. if you just one one rifle and 90% of what you shoot is 'up to' and including medium sized deer, then it's really a tough round to beat. 55g for the small stuff. 87g for the small/mid deer, and 100g for the bigger deer.

recoil is nowt so people tend to shoot accurately and with confidence, reloading is cheap and plenty of choice, and of course, every dealer has factory ammo aplenty on the shelves if you need.


if you're a good enough hunter to take game with a 6mm, why would you bother going larger?

 

[MARCBO]

because it's a cracking all rounder for small vermin, fox, small deer, medium deer, even some large deer. if you just one one rifle and 90% of what you shoot is 'up to' and including medium sized deer, then it's really a tough round to beat. 55g for the small stuff. 87g for the small/mid deer, and 100g for the bigger deer.



recoil is nowt so people tend to shoot accurately and with confidence, reloading is cheap and plenty of choice, and of course, every dealer has factory ammo aplenty on the shelves if you need.



if you're a good enough hunter to take game with a 6mm, why would you bother going larger?

I have killed many Roe with a 223....

Bet you can find a broader selection of 30 caliber reloading components and loaded ammunition on the shelves should you look, not to mention surplus ammo in 308.


Same argument for the 223. It is a commonly held truth in the US that the 22LR has probably accounted for more deer than all other calibers combined.

 

[VSS]

Why would anyone want to shoot a 243 ?

SS

Because I like it.

 

[MARCBO]

you are about 4 days too early with this post matey!

This reminds me of the Sargeant Major walking thru the ranks and telling a soldier "You are going to need a haircut".

How do you know I am exactly 4 days too early?

SS

 

[AN DU RU FOX]

because three days is not long enough?

 

[scubadog]

This reminds me of the Sargeant Major walking thru the ranks and telling a soldier "You are going to need a haircut".

How do you know I am exactly 4 days too early?

SS

Because sh8t stirring posts with no good reason or point are usually saved for Friday evenings on forums.

 

[Muir]

Why would anyone want to shoot a 243, if you cannot take your game with a 22 caliber cartridge why would you not step up to a 30 caliber of some sort? Growing up in the Western US most people I knew of using a 243 were women who had trouble with the recoil of anything larger...

SS

Yup. That's the way it is still.
Considered a Lady's cartridge ~Muir

 

[Tulloch]

I have killed many Roe with a 223....

Bet you can find a broader selection of 30 caliber reloading components and loaded ammunition on the shelves should you look, not to mention surplus ammo in 308.


Same argument for the 223. It is a commonly held truth in the US that the 22LR has probably accounted for more deer than all other calibers combined.

for a lot of people the .243 is the only rifle needed , it is big deer legal in Scotland unlike the .22 range and it can do everything below it so ideal all rounder

 

[Mungo]

Why would anyone want to shoot a 243, if you cannot take your game with a 22 caliber cartridge why would you not step up to a 30 caliber of some sort? Growing up in the Western US most people I knew of using a 243 were women who had trouble with the recoil of anything larger...

SS

Really? Again?

 

[User00047]

So, what you are saying is: in the Western US, women are able to kill game with a .243, which men need to use a .30 cal to kill? says a lot about male marksmanship in the western US then doesn't it?

 

[Bandit]

So, what you are saying is: in the Western US, women are able to kill game with a .243, which men need to use a .30 cal to kill? says a lot about male marksmanship in the western US then doesn't it?

 

[Brithunter]

Actually in the UK it had more to with Licensing departments than anything else. The Law stated a minimum of .240" calibre and the Licensing folks not knowing much really seized upon the .243 Win as the Minimum not realising that it's in fact a .236" calibre and really not legal. But seeing as they have been foisting the .243 onto shooters in the UK for many decades they are not about to admit that made an almighty F-up now are they ???

You see they just loved that word "Minimum" .

In that last few years the law has been changed slightly so that .22 CF can be used for Roe in Scotland and Muntjac and Chinese Water Deer in England and Wales.

Edit:- in Scotland and Muntjac and Chinese Water Deer....... added as I missed it out ................ thank you for spotting the omission.

 

[Paul at Fechan]

So, what you are saying is: in the Western US, women are able to kill game with a .243, which men need to use a .30 cal to kill? says a lot about male marksmanship in the western US then doesn't it?

there's not a deer in the UK you wouldn't kill with 50gr soft point from a .222 anywhere in the cavity being honest... doesn't mean that it will die quickly with an 'average' 'will do' shot on really big deer compared to say 250gr from my 375 h&h that makes a proper big hole, lots of vital internal damage to let the blood pour into quickly and gives a massive recoild that MEN should feel when the choose to take their deer.

Gun go bang deer fall over...

 

[Paul at Fechan]

In that last few years the law has been changed slightly so that .22 CF can be used for Roe i England and Wales.

you mean munties and cwd, roe is still .240 and 1700 ft-lb

 

[Muir]

So, what you are saying is: in the Western US, women are able to kill game with a .243, which men need to use a .30 cal to kill? says a lot about male marksmanship in the western US then doesn't it?

Who says they kill anything? ~Muir

 

[Mr. Gain]

It is a commonly held truth in the US that the 22LR has probably accounted for more deer than all other calibers combined.

Quite apart from the fallible nature of "commonly-held truths" (which often fall into the category of "vulgar errors"), and even if true, this belief conveniently neglects to mention the even greater number of deer likely to have been wounded in the process.

I don't know why .243 would be a good choice in the USA, but in the UK it's a minimum requirement for most species, so smaller calibres aren't an option. You could go up to .308, but for those who shoot foxes at night a flatter-shooting cartridge (such as a .243 with 55-grain polymer-tipped bullets) is preferable.

All this supposes you want one gun to do several jobs, which may be of little interest or benefit in the USA, but in a country with considerable bureaucratic restrictions on firearms ownership, and significantly higher prices, such as the UK, it's not such an unreasonable choice.

 

[Tim.243]

you mean munties and cwd, roe is still .240 and 1700 ft-lb

Quite right Paul......

Tim.243

 

[timbrayford]

there's not a deer in the UK you wouldn't kill with 50gr soft point from a .222 anywhere in the cavity being honest... doesn't mean that it will die quickly with an 'average' 'will do' shot on really big deer compared to say 250gr from my 375 h&h that makes a proper big hole, lots of vital internal damage to let the blood pour into quickly and gives a massive recoild that MEN should feel when the choose to take their deer.

Gun go bang deer fall over...

The stopping power on deer with the 375 h&h I am not surprised by.

But does this trash the carcase compared to the smaller calibres and give an unpleasant amount of recoil to the shooter?

atb Tim