Pine Marten
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I certainly hope it has three barrels, 2x16 bore and a 7x57R because that's what I bought!
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Not really, unless you're shooting it all the time. Mine gets through about 500 a year (driven/walked-up/general fun), which is perfectly affordable, while the 12s (mostly an 870 p/a and a Laporte moderated O/U) handle the majority of the pigeon/corvid shooting, and go with me on shoots where I don't want to look quite so eccentric (S/S boxlock or sidelocks). I also have a Lee load-all in 16g that lets me make up more specialised loads than I can buy locally.
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mchughcb
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Good luck with it when you get it. I've got a Sauer3000 export 7x65R and 12/70. If you find there is too much bluing missing then can I suggest cerakoting it. I had it done recently looks great and has survived being to hell and back. Nobody wanted to reblue it and now that I've had it done it looks like new. I also have a combo in 7x57R. Just a suggestion I reload both with 175gr hornady interlocks in RWS brass. Accurate and great penetration. Norma factories are good as well.
McHughCB -
Do you mind sharing your load for the 7x57R with the 175-gr Hornady?
How does it shoot compared to factory loads in that size bullet?
Brownell's Oxy cold blue will do a great job on that old Sauer drilling, should it need it. I am restoring an Ithaca SxS now, and am going to cold blue it using that. I have hot blued and rust blued other restorations, but the Brownell's does a great job, and on touch up of thin spots, too, blending in.
Do you mind sharing your load for the 7x57R with the 175-gr Hornady?
How does it shoot compared to factory loads in that size bullet?
Brownell's Oxy cold blue will do a great job on that old Sauer drilling, should it need it. I am restoring an Ithaca SxS now, and am going to cold blue it using that. I have hot blued and rust blued other restorations, but the Brownell's does a great job, and on touch up of thin spots, too, blending in.
mchughcb
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Using 45gr of 2209, cci br primer, rws case. Have them sighted in for 200m zero. About 7cm high at 100m. Shot fallow, sambar, wild goats and boar with that load. Haven't chronographed it but should be good for 2400-2500fps. Nice and mild to shoot with great penetration. Not much meat damage.
Pine Marten
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This one is nowhere near as old, that model was launched in 1955, but it's probably from the sixties or seventies. I'll find out at some stage. I've handled quite a few drillings in auction previews and older 12 bore drillings are a lot heavier that the 16 bores. I don't think anyone manufactures them in 16 bore anymore, it's 20 or 12. I have to say that I handled a brand new Krieghoff drilling in 12 bore and it was very light. The metallurgy has moved on and the 12 bore 3" steel-proofed shotgun barrels are very thin. So I suppose there's no reason to scale down to 16 bore in search or lightness. If you want a proper small bore you go for 20.
Pine Marten
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Yes, it's called an Einstecklauf, but I deliberately didn't choose a drilling that had one, as it makes the gun very heavy and frankly, I don't need it, although they are a cool device.
Mick9abf
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You never know PM
! Incidentally I am heading to my friends place in January so am thinking of using his Drilling for a bit o variety!
Heym SR20
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have been having similar thoughts re getting a .222 Einstecklauf for mine. But have come to the conclusion that the 7mm does the same job just as well. I have read about and thought of getting some cast lead bullets and using a load of trail boss to give a subsonic load, effectively an old rook and rabbit rifle, for use on rabbits that are a bit too far for a shot barrel. But never got around to it.
i really like the 16 bore, so much so that I plan to get a 16 bore double at some point. But I shoot really well with my AyA Coral (looks like a merkel) that I am loathed to change it.
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mchughcb
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I can thoroughly recommend a kreighoff einstecklauf in 22Magnum. 44cm long barrel. I had one installed a couple of years ago. I have it regulated with the CCI Vmax 30gr. To change it out takes about 20 seconds with the square tool. It really fits the bill for foxes and rabbits at 100 yards where the 7x65R is too much and well beyond the 12 bore range. It cost me a couple of hundred and it was a great investment. It is a right pain to regulate, but when regulated surprisingly accurate. It will easily group 2" at 100 yards and for a free floating barrel in a shotgun chamber that is impressive. The actual unit is very light probably a couple of hundred grams so makes no difference on a gun that already weighs 3.65kg but makes it far more versatile hunting rig.
If you don't like the vmax then I'd suggest the 50gr Federal hollow points. They certainly knock off a few wallabies over here no problem.
If you don't like the vmax then I'd suggest the 50gr Federal hollow points. They certainly knock off a few wallabies over here no problem.
That's really interesting. I've considered acquiring an ESL for some time, but not only has the price been high (c. EUR 1000) but manufacturers have wanted to fit the unit to the gun themselves (shipping internationally = too much paperwork). I'd assumed therefore that each ESL was a custom fit, but it sounds like perhaps any ESL will do.
If it only takes £200 and a bit of fiddling...
Will this Kreighoff einstecklauf work in other shotgun barrels, or just Kreighoff?
I know from the Kreighoff catalogs that they make a full length centerfire barrel which attaches at the muzzle and is regulated there.
A .22 Magnum in a combination or drilling barrel would be very neat.
I know from the Kreighoff catalogs that they make a full length centerfire barrel which attaches at the muzzle and is regulated there.
A .22 Magnum in a combination or drilling barrel would be very neat.
PM,
My 16ga/8x57 combination gun weighs 6 lb 8oz, and 7lbs 2oz with the Leupold 2.5x scope in the claw rings.
Its barrels are 26 inches, while my 20ga/7x57R of the same weight has 27-inch barrels.
Some of my old shotguns ( Lefever, Parker, AH Fox ) have pretty thin barrels, and the Lefever 12 and Fox 12 are very quick to get around on a bird.
My 16ga/8x57 combination gun weighs 6 lb 8oz, and 7lbs 2oz with the Leupold 2.5x scope in the claw rings.
Its barrels are 26 inches, while my 20ga/7x57R of the same weight has 27-inch barrels.
Some of my old shotguns ( Lefever, Parker, AH Fox ) have pretty thin barrels, and the Lefever 12 and Fox 12 are very quick to get around on a bird.
mchughcb
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Pine Marten
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Has anyone here used the Import Case Management System, as recommended by Mereside in this thread: http://www.thestalkingdirectory.co....e-from-EU-countries?highlight=importing+rifle?
I've been trying to contact them as instructed for a few days now but with no luck. No idea whether that's normal or not but I have nothing at all to tell the seller in Germany at this stage.
I've been trying to contact them as instructed for a few days now but with no luck. No idea whether that's normal or not but I have nothing at all to tell the seller in Germany at this stage.
I have seen 12 gauge subgauge sets from Briley, with are lightweight and work well. $350.00
Seminole makes nice ones, too.
I bought a set of these Chamber Mates in 28 gauge for my 12 gauge SxS shotguns.
They work way better than you might think. And inexpensive.
http://www.chambermates.com/questions.htm
Pistol barrel inserts for $150.00 USD Now we're talking !! $130.00
http://www.gaugemate.com/info/sub-gauge-adapters
http://www.gaugemate.com/purchase/category/39-pocket-sniper-10
Seminole makes nice ones, too.
I bought a set of these Chamber Mates in 28 gauge for my 12 gauge SxS shotguns.
They work way better than you might think. And inexpensive.
http://www.chambermates.com/questions.htm
Pistol barrel inserts for $150.00 USD Now we're talking !! $130.00
http://www.gaugemate.com/info/sub-gauge-adapters
http://www.gaugemate.com/purchase/category/39-pocket-sniper-10
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