whats the longest shot you have ever taiken on a deer

[bambislayer]

thumbs down , me thinks,

I remember 2434me telling this one in the back of the beaters truck

Woman asks a man who is known not to be greatly blessed, "who are you going to please with that little thing?"

He looks up and smiles and replies "ME"

 

[2434me]

Just let me point out that I wasnt talking from experience!!lol

 

[sikamalc]

Dead and buried both of the Trolls.

 

[Robin]

Way to go Malc.

 

[finnbear270]

I think you are all wrong.... who decides what distance is?.....what is distance?....100yds?, 200yds?, 221? 223?..... any stalk can end with a shot at shotgun distance.........right out to where ONLY YOU know you will hit where you intended, no one else can decide that for you, if you are taking a shot at a deer or a fox or whatever, when you squeeze that trigger, you do it with that confidence, it's having that confidence that makes you a responsible stalker, not how near or how far, we can all stalk in to a distance of our choosing, however, I think Wraith has made a poor choice of words, but should we hang him high for it, or try to explain that poor wording?

 

[flytie]

I think Wraith has made a poor choice of words, but should we hang him high for it, or try to explain that poor wording?

Yes

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[User00023]

Three days away from a PC and what a lot I've missed!

If I may, I would like to paraphrase the original to ask,

"How many of us have looked at a deer through the 'scope and said, 'No. Too far.'?"

How many more have said, "Phew! That's just about as far as I'd like".

With respect to the latter I believe my limit on muntjac lies at around 120 yards and roe at 175 yards, and that's shooting off a bipod or other stable support. Off sticks I would definitely desist from a shot on muntjac beyond 70 yards and be unlikely to go much further for anything larger unless I could steady myself against a solid object such as a tree.

 

[Jager SA]

Ive lost the plot with this thread (dont take much...)

I dont know where its going or if it should of been allowed to continue but thats my opinion.

I asked how the calulations for windage and elevation were decided, simple enough answer me thinks. It doesnt take long for the bullet to reach its target but there is enough time for the quarry to flinch either way, however, the question is how much energy is left in both the .223 and .243 at these ranges? Enough for a clean kill??? Also, both of these cals drop a hell of a lot, more so with your standard hunting bullet and twist rates.

I am not convinced.


I might add, I have shot wild goats at long range, well 610 yards in NZ and that was using Exbal, wind meter etc etc, not and easy task without the right equipment!

 

[Dalua]

right out to where ONLY YOU know you will hit where you intended

The point I keep trying to make is that anyone who takes a shot with 100% certainty of a killing hit is deluding himself. With this risk of missing/wounding in mind, one has to consider how likely a second shot is to be successful: range is an important factor in this.

when you squeeze that trigger, you do it with that confidence, it's having that confidence that makes you a responsible stalker

If the word 'competance' were substituted for 'confidence', I would agree entirely.
As it stands, though, it strikes me as a dangerous fallacy.
Just because someone is 'confident' of something doesn't mean that they are competant to do it or indeed that it is the right thing to do.

I think Wraith has made a poor choice of words, but should we hang him high for it, or try to explain that poor wording?

Wraith seems to me to have expressed his views very clearly.
There are perhaps those who can consitently shoot at 600yds with the same stalking-adequate level of accuracy that I can manage at 200-250yds. My reservation about their taking such shots would then rest largely on the increased difficulties that this distance would bring should a beast be wounded, particularly the problem of a second shot, quite possibly at even longer range.

It does occur to me that successful long shots on the hill, unless it is dead calm, must often be a matter of chance; for even if a wind-meter is used, it is only ever used at the muzzle rather than over the entire 600yds. Mind you, I've never done any long-range work even on the range, so my worries might be misplaced.

 

[pip]

Last 16 deer, all in the last 2 weeks were 348, 320,302,282,282,232 all the way down to 39m. All dead, no runners. If your equipment is up to the task, you practice a lot and you have a large cull to meet as opposed to stalking for the pot or for pleasure then I do not see the problem. By the way 350 is my personal max.

 

[Mannlicher_Stu]

I think No 7 sums it up best

http://www.cartoonstock.com/directory/d/deer.asp

 

[cervushunter]

Hi Wraith,

I would be most interested in watching a short video of you setting yourself up for one of these shots, i do realise that at range on video i probably would not be able to see the target/deer but i am interested in long range shooting and how you go about getting into a position for long range shooting.

My longest shot is 210 yards on a roe checked by google earth, shot on a still frosty morning, from a high seat and the beast was at least 200 yards from any form of cover. I want to shoot a deer at 300 to 400 yards i do not mind admitting, to do this i have put a 300 win mag on my birthday list(on paperwork so ok there) but i will not attempt to do so until i can consistantly hit a 6" circle at that range in ANY conditions and with my FIRST shot not my second or third.

It is not the sort of thing that i would want to do all the time but it is what i would like to aim for(excuse the pun), again i would like to see your version of getting into position etc etc up to taking the shot. Feel free to pm me.

Regards cervushunter.

 

[russ91]

not shot deer at long ranges but have shot target rifle 308 up to ranges of 1000 yds at bisley, its a challenge but with a 2&7 comp i got a 8'' grouping using iron sites with a 3.1 aperture

 

[Jason]

Longest shot on deer was a hind at around 300m + with a .308 up a very steep hill in Scotland, couldn't get any closer because of the wind and terrain. Dropped her with my second shot, the wind changed as I took the shot. Had to aim just below her jaw to allow for drop and wind, bullet hit in her engine room. On that particular trip the closest hind was 200m.

All I'll say about shooting an deer or infact any quary at long range is it's not ideal or really desirable to do it but when you have to you've got to know your rifle, ammo, your own capabilities and also be determined to finish the job if it goes wrong.

 

[steviemaysa]

its stalking, that means you get as close to your pray as pos for a humane shot not a lucky one,

 

[finnbear270]

The point I keep trying to make is that anyone who takes a shot with 100% certainty of a killing hit is deluding himself. With this risk of missing/wounding in mind, one has to consider how likely a second shot is to be successful: range is an important factor in this.So what would make you 100% sure of a kill @ 50yds?.............. Is every shot a "shot in the dark"?

 

[Dalua]

So what would make you 100% sure of a kill @ 50yds?

Nothing! Is that not clear from what I've written?

.............. Is every shot a "shot in the dark"?

Not sure what you mean by that.

 

[finnbear270]

Dalua, I feel you may be a little unsure of the end result, of discharging a deer calibre rifle at a live target situate @ 50yds from the muzzle, albeit not looking at said target through Jam Jar lenses, I am less unsure of the result.

 

[Dalua]

We are probably at cross-purposes. You didn't ask me how unsure I was - you asked if I would be 100% sure, which I don't think one can ever be.
That's one reason why I put some cartridges in the magazine and operate the bolt quickly after firing. You do the same, perhaps?

 

[finnbear270]

Dalua, I would be 100% sure that I would not want to be that target. percentages are just that.........what you make of them.