BASC elections, Martyn Jones hunt ban advocate

Druid

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Just read this on the pigeon watch website, might be of interest to BASC member thinking of voting, apparently only shoots clays-

Martyn Jones Former Labour MP is standing as a BASC candidate. Please be aware of the things he voted for in his time in office, most importantly the issue below:

HE VOTED STRONGLY FOR THE ABOLOITION OF HUNTING

Other issues might interest you
Voted to try and exclude himself from the freedom of information act at the start of the expenses scandal - the vote failed!


Don't just listen to what you are told search the candidates, we see what happens when we get the wrong sort in with the GL threads so make your own minds up but do your research before hand!
 
seems a bit of an anti and very against any form of hunting.5th columnist type.lotsa of peeps think he,s doing it to infiltrate and dilute the work BASC do.
 
Maybe they voted for him on his record of defending SHOOTING (as BASC is a shooting body) and not his record on defending a pastime that has nothing to do with shooting?
 
It just goes to prove that apart from a doubtful CEO, the 'voice of shooting' is unable to exclude such a 'poacher'. Those who nominated and voted for this man must have concluded a leopard can change its spots - and as such, have no place in any shooting organisation.
BASC seems to go from one failure to another.
I'm waiting for the 'level playing field' from police firearms units that we needed before an increase in the licence fee.
Another sad day for shooters and shooting, courtesy of.............................
Impossible of course to include a restriction to nomination to potential Council membership which would have excluded him?
 
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If the number of people who are prepared to post anti-hunting views on here is any indication of the general shooting community in the UK, then why is this a surprise?

Indeed, there are plenty of people on here who routinely disparage game shooting, and grouse shooting especially, apparently without appreciating what is involved and the conservation benefits it brings.

Managing deer is important, and paid stalking secures rural jobs, but my impression is that its wider environmental and social benefits don't come close to those derived from the management of land for game shooting, or the management of river beats for game fishing, for that matter.

I've never hunted (only chased around after beagles), but I suspect that the social benefits of hunting at least equalled those of the aforementioned activities, and from what I've seen of country that's managed with hunting in mind, the environmental benefits there are substantial too.

A man can support shooting with vigour and yet be prejudiced, indifferent, uninformed or unenlightened in respect of other facets of country life. It's up to the rest of us to help inform and engage, and to keep out own minds open so as not to make the same mistakes.
 
A man can support shooting with vigour and yet be prejudiced, indifferent, uninformed or unenlightened in respect of other facets of country life. It's up to the rest of us to help inform and engage, and to keep out own minds open so as not to make the same mistakes.

+1 - very true indeed.
 
I think one of the biggest challenges facing pro-shooting & country sports organisations is the appointment of voluntary & salaried officials that have views that have more in common with those of our opponents.

In my opinion Jonathon Swift was ill suited to both his role of CEO at BASC and more latterly as chairman of LAG.

I believe that the only reason that shooting sports haven't come under a more sustained and heavy attack from the antis is because hunting with hounds is still very much a live issue.

This vote for Martyn Jones may cause disharmony and do nothing positive of benefit for the shooting community as a result .

atb Tim
 
Here's his write up from the BASC website;

Martyn David Jones
Martyn Jones
Aged 67 from Bwlchgwyn, Wrexham
Proposed by: Ronald Stoll, seconded E A Williams
Retired Member of Parliament
BASC Member for 2 years
Martyn says:
As a Chairman of a Parliamentary Select Committee and Member of the Speaker’s Panel of Chairmen in my 23 years as a Member of Parliament, I believe I would bring a wealth of experience of committee work to obtain the best and quickest consensual results. My contacts in Parliament, and wider government, would help inform BASC of attitudes and issues towards firearms which would need consideration by shooting organisations. This will be especially mportant this year in the run-up to the an election when shooters have the chance to put our case to politicians when they are at their most receptive.
I have been vice chairman of the British Shooting Sports Council for a number of years. I have worked with BSSC and its individual organisations such as the NRA, NSRA, CPSA and of course BASC for many years. I am also a life member of the NRA. I have been involved in most forms of shooting since I first went rough shooting with my uncle over 50 years ago. I am mainly a target and clay pigeon shooter now but have enjoyed game shooting.
Having seen our sport being eroded by the antis over the years, and now that I am retired, I would like to use the expertise I have in achieving political and public relations results to help BASC in its sterling efforts to stem and reverse the tide against all the various aspects of our sport. An attack on one is an attack on all.
I worked in industry for 19 years before becoming a Member of Parliament. Prior to that I was a county councillor. I have had a great deal of involvement both in community and various voluntary organisations. For example, I am president of the Friends of the Llangollen Eisteddfod and vice president of several male voice choirs.
As one of the handful of MPs who refused to vote for the firearms restrictions following both the Hungerford and Dunblane tragedies, I know very well indeed the huge pressures there are to ‘do something’ engendered by the press and the media, encouraged by the antis, and I believe BASC has been one of the most effective engines against damaging and unnecessary legislation. I would like the opportunity to help BASC, working with BSSC and other responsible organisations, to be even more effective in the future, as we need to be as strong, vigilant, and together as possible in order to protect our sports and keep shooting!


interestingly no mention of party etc, I completely agree with Mr Gains comment and really if we can't move forward as one were not going to well move forwards! We need numbers to carry votes and if we're all fragmented and only look out for our own relatively small interests were done for.
 
I am afraid I wouldn't ever and didn't vote for Martyn Jones, but that is democracy for you. Sometimes you get the person you don't want. Perhaps the community can convert him. We should see it as a challenging opportunity.

David.
 
Oh and I just noticed he's been a member of BASC for two years.... I had to be a member of a local wild fowling club longer than that before i could get involved in anything more than litter picking!
 
Here's his write up from the BASC website;

Martyn David Jones
Martyn Jones
Aged 67 from Bwlchgwyn, Wrexham
Proposed by: Ronald Stoll, seconded E A Williams
Retired Member of Parliament
BASC Member for 2 years
Martyn says:
I am also a life member of the NRA...... An attack on one is an attack on all.

Wasn't it the NRA that stabbed the owners of semi auto centrefires in the back?
 
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